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Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Promoting development of self-regulation

Yes, it's much harder to diagnose a pre-verbal child, but that doesn't actually
mean that the differences in the brain cannot be seen with the right tools.

The ability to diagnose this disorder is not perfected or standardized.
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Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Promoting development of self-regulation

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Yes, it's much harder to diagnose a pre-verbal child, but that doesn't actually
mean that the differences in the brain cannot be seen with the right tools.

The ability to diagnose this disorder is not perfected or standardized.

No human is born with the ability to self-regulate.

Inattentive, hyperactive and impulsive behavior are considered normal behavior during early toddlerhood because human self -regulation has normally not developed yet.

Point being...

..human implicit self-regulation normally develops in interaction with the environment between birth and the age of 3.







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Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Promoting development of self-regulation

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..human implicit self-regulation normally develops in interaction with the environment between birth and the age of 3.
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This is true, but it will not develop along the normal path no matter what the interaction with the environment is, if that which causes adhd in the first place is present at birth. This does not mean environment is not important, it simply means environment doesn't cause adhd in the vast majority of cases.
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Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Promoting development of self-regulation

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No human is born with the ability to self-regulate.

Inattentive, hyperactive and impulsive behavior are considered normal behavior during early toddlerhood because human self -regulation has normally not developed yet.

Point being...

..human implicit self-regulation normally develops in interaction with the environment between birth and the age of 3.

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That which causes ADHD interferes with implicit self regulation, that's why it shows up. I was diagnosed at 4 my symptoms showed up before my diagnosis. They problem was there at birth.
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Nobody is born with developed self-regulation.

Nobody is diagnosed with ADHD before the age of 4.


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Re: Riding a bike with no hands.

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No human is born with the ability to self-regulate.

Inattentive, hyperactive and impulsive behavior are considered normal behavior during early toddlerhood because human self -regulation has normally not developed yet.

Point being...

...human implicit self-regulation normally develops in interaction with the environment between birth and the age of 3.


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Bolding added as this is the part I'm responding to.

In ADHD, self-regulation does not develop normally because of wonky wiring
or smaller lobes or unbalanced chemicals inside the brain.

The environment the child lives in daily can promote better development, or
can delay development even further.

But the child was born with a problem inside the brain before they were even
born.

Yes, children can develop something that is almost identical to ADHD if they
experience trauma during their early years, and that is a shame because it
could be prevented.



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My son was diagnosed at age 3.5.
My granddaughter was 3.5 when I first took her to story time at the library.

The difference between her and the other children was quite noticable,

even the ones who were younger than her could sit still for a few minutes
without interrupting. She could not.

Back then I didn't know anyone but hyperactive little boys had this thing called
ADHD or I would have encouraged her mom to get her diagnosed.

Once I knew what the symptoms looked like, I realized a lot of her earlier
behaviors were recognizable ADHD traits.

Her self-regulation skills had always been delayed compare to her peers.
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Re: Riding a bike with no hands.

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Bolding added as this is the part I'm responding to.

In ADHD, self-regulation does not develop normally because of wonky wiring
or smaller lobes or unbalanced chemicals inside the brain.

The environment the child lives in daily can promote better development, or
can delay development even further.

But the child was born with a problem inside the brain before they were even
born.
We are born with more sensitive temperaments.

Interferes with normal development of implicit self-regulation.



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Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Promoting development of self-regulation

Our sensitive temperaments are more reactive to distresses.

(Distresses perceived or real).

We can epigenetically inherit our ancestors hypersensitive temperaments back 3-5 generations.



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We are born with more sensitive temperaments.

Interferes with normal development of implicit self-regulation.



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Yep, most who have ADHD are more sensitive.

But not all who are sensitive have ADHD?

Here's some interesting information on temperament and diagnosing ADHD:

http://www.livescience.com/46730-new-adhd-types.html
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Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Promoting development of self-regulation

I wonder what we could learn about an emotionally hypersensitive temperament using emotional affective neuroscience personality scales?

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Six of the primary-process subcortical brain emotion systems - SEEKING, RAGE, FEAR, CARE, GRIEF and PLAY - are presented as foundational for human personality development, and hence as a potentially novel template for personality assessment as in the Affective Neurosciences Personality Scales (ANPS), described here. The ANPS was conceptualized as a potential clinical research tool, which would help experimentalists and clinicians situate subjects and clients in primary-process affective space. These emotion systems are reviewed in the context of a multi-tiered framing of consciousness spanning from primary affect, which encodes biological valences, to higher level tertiary (thought mediated) processing. Supporting neuroscience research is presented along with comparisons to Cloninger's Temperament and Character Inventory and the Five Factor Model (FFM). Suggestions are made for grounding the internal structure of the FFM on the primal emotional systems recognized in affective neuroscience, which may promote substantive dialog between human and animal research traditions. Personality is viewed in the context of Darwinian "continuity" with the inherited subcortical brain emotion systems being foundational, providing major forces for personality development in both humans and animals, and providing an affective infrastructure for an expanded five factor descriptive model applying to normal and clinical human populations as well as mammals generally. Links with ontogenetic and epigenetic models of personality development are also presented. Potential novel clinical applications of the CARE maternal-nurturance system and the PLAY system are also discussed.
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Yep, most who have ADHD are more sensitive.

But not all who are sensitive have ADHD?

Here's some interesting information on temperament and diagnosing ADHD:

http://www.livescience.com/46730-new-adhd-types.html

Hypersensitivity alone does not cause deficits of implicit self-regulation.

Emotionally hypersensitive people are more emotionally reactive to the emotional environment.

It is the relationship between the internal emotional temperament and the external emotional environment.



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In some people, there will be a greater concentration of developmental problems.

This may be because their specific circumstances were worse, or because they were more sensitive, deeply affected by conditions that others with more robust temperaments could better withstand.

They are the ones likely to be diagnosed with ADD or with some other disorder.

-Gabor Mate M.D., "Scattered", p 43.



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