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Old 04-13-18, 11:14 AM
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Tell boss of pre-emptive job search??

Should I tell my boss I am looking in kind of a preemptive way. Letting him know I'll be out of his hair soon or is that worse and can lead to him cutting me loose even if there weren't immediate plans to do so?
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Re: Tell boss of pre-emptive job search??

I think it can go either way.

Is he mad at you about something right now that makes you think he's about ready to fire you?

Something happened a long time ago to me once. we lost an over $1 million dollar contract cause my company proposed me as the manager for a project and we didn't know that one of the judges for that project didn't like me. That judge made it sound like there was something really wrong with me saying I did the exact opposite of what they asked for (it's possible I didn't hear what they said due to my adhd).

I was afraid I was going to be fired so I spoke with a lawyer. Lawyer told me to set up a meeting with my boss.

At that meeting, tell my boss i wanted to make him happy and do the best job that I can. And ask him how I can do that. What areas or what would he like me to do something differently in?

The lawyer told me to watch and listen to my boss. He said that based on his body language, tone of voice, and what he said, I would know if my boss wanted to fire me or not. that lawyer was absolutely right. I felt 98% certain my boss wasn't going to fire me after that meeting and he didn't.

The lawyer had said to disclose if he was going to fire me but don't disclose otherwise. Disclosure can buy you time to find another job for sure but the risk of people knowing about your adhd (that knowledge might spread to other companies as well) might make it that you are better off just being fired than disclosing (though I didn't feel that was the case in my situation).

My recommendation is to set up a meeting like that with your boss to see if you think he's going to fire you if you aren't really certain right now. If you are certain, then it's really about his personality on what you do.
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Re: Tell boss of pre-emptive job search??

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I think it can go either way.

Is he mad at you about something right now that makes you think he's about ready to fire you?

Something happened a long time ago to me once. we lost an over $1 million dollar contract cause my company proposed me as the manager for a project and we didn't know that one of the judges for that project didn't like me. That judge made it sound like there was something really wrong with me saying I did the exact opposite of what they asked for (it's possible I didn't hear what they said due to my adhd).

I was afraid I was going to be fired so I spoke with a lawyer. Lawyer told me to set up a meeting with my boss.

At that meeting, tell my boss i wanted to make him happy and do the best job that I can. And ask him how I can do that. What areas or what would he like me to do something differently in?

The lawyer told me to watch and listen to my boss. He said that based on his body language, tone of voice, and what he said, I would know if my boss wanted to fire me or not. that lawyer was absolutely right. I felt 98% certain my boss wasn't going to fire me after that meeting and he didn't.

The lawyer had said to disclose if he was going to fire me but don't disclose otherwise. Disclosure can buy you time to find another job for sure but the risk of people knowing about your adhd (that knowledge might spread to other companies as well) might make it that you are better off just being fired than disclosing (though I didn't feel that was the case in my situation).

My recommendation is to set up a meeting like that with your boss to see if you think he's going to fire you if you aren't really certain right now. If you are certain, then it's really about his personality on what you do.
Thank you for replying.

If I were spending 1 million dollars on something I would make sure that everyone heard me and knew exactly what I wanted and how I wanted it. I don't think your ADHD had a whole lot to do with it.

I am an RN so the mistakes we may make can injure/kill someone, our license can get suspended or revoked and/or get fired. The law can even be brought into it *See below.* It is much, much easier to fire nurses which is good and bad. Nursing is a strange creature which could not be a worse fit for someone with ADHD- Inattentive.

I'm not tell him about my ADHD just telling that I was looking for another job. It's my thinking is that he would be relieved and since I'm on my way out, firing would be harsh. It wasn't one the definite fireable offenses although they could.

He mentioned retraining and talked of how to ensure this won't happen again. I already feel inadequate there for reasons that may just seem big to me due to ADHD and low self-esteem but no one else cares. The retraining and how that plays out will only make it 100% worse. Maybe telling him I'm looking for another job would affect the retraining since I'm leaving? Retraining isn't even the issue!! ADHD and this type of job being a mismatch (like my last RN job) is the real issue!! Getting a job in healthcare where my strengths can shine is the answer!!

Later in the day, he asked me to write a statement about what happened right there on the spot. I wrote about the part of the mistake that was black and white not adding the part that is done by others with zero thought given. I suspect that the physician who is involved had a particular issue with it as he was already upset with the real mistake. I don't know if that could be used against me or not.

Before leaving for the day, another RN was helping me with the same task I had done "incorrectly" and she was going to do the exact same thing that I did without one thought given but we didn't need it. smh........

Also, a supervisor who was also in the meeting was joking with me later on which gave me hope that I would not be fired so that gave me hope. Should this give me hope??? I don't know.


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Re: Tell boss of pre-emptive job search??

Don't tell them until you have a new job in hand and are giving notice.

Telling them in advance gains you nothing, in my opinion, and could backfire in unfortunate ways.

As long as you're just looking, you don't have a job to fall back on, and they don't know when you'll "be out of their hair". If they felt the retraining was necessary (either for real, or to cover their rears), it's unlikely they'd let you out of it just because you claim you're planning to leave. They might decide that rather than put time/effort/money into retraining you if you're planning to leave soon anyway, they should just cut you loose now.

So keep looking for a new, better place to shine, but at your current job, try to work as though you were going to be working there long-term.
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Don't tell them until you have a new job in hand and are giving notice.

Telling them in advance gains you nothing, in my opinion, and could backfire in unfortunate ways.

As long as you're just looking, you don't have a job to fall back on, and they don't know when you'll "be out of their hair". If they felt the retraining was necessary (either for real, or to cover their rears), it's unlikely they'd let you out of it just because you claim you're planning to leave. They might decide that rather than put time/effort/money into retraining you if you're planning to leave soon anyway, they should just cut you loose now.

So keep looking for a new, better place to shine, but at your current job, try to work as though you were going to be working there long-term.
Thanks for replying. I didn't think of it that way but it makes complete sense!!! That might be exactly what they could do!
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Re: Tell boss of pre-emptive job search??

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Don't tell them until you have a new job in hand and are giving notice.

Telling them in advance gains you nothing, in my opinion, and could backfire in unfortunate ways.

As long as you're just looking, you don't have a job to fall back on, and they don't know when you'll "be out of their hair". If they felt the retraining was necessary (either for real, or to cover their rears), it's unlikely they'd let you out of it just because you claim you're planning to leave. They might decide that rather than put time/effort/money into retraining you if you're planning to leave soon anyway, they should just cut you loose now.

So keep looking for a new, better place to shine, but at your current job, try to work as though you were going to be working there long-term.
What namazu says is the way to go in my opinion. Don't cloud up the waters for nothing. Just think about your own personal advancement in this and tell the boss when it's actually time to leave. This is how things are done formally and I see no reason for deviation. My 2p.
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What namazu says is the way to go in my opinion. Don't cloud up the waters for nothing. Just think about your own personal advancement in this and tell the boss when it's actually time to leave. This is how things are done formally and I see no reason for deviation. My 2p.
Thanks for replying. I did not say anything to him. You are correct in that telling a boss in advance isn't how it's done.
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IMO don't let him know until you've solidified something else.
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I would say do not tell them you're leaving until you have another job lined up, if they know you're leaving before you got something else lined up they could make your life a misery.
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The only time you wanna announce you are leaving ... is if you're someone with say 3 or 4 x your salary in the bank ... not in retirement account... but in savings account in addition to retirement ... and in addition to no cc debt, fully paid car and so on.

Companies sometimes seem to have this thing of humiliating people who announce they wanna quit.
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The only time you wanna announce you are leaving ... is if you're someone with say 3 or 4 x your salary in the bank ... not in retirement account... but in savings account in addition to retirement ... and in addition to no cc debt, fully paid car and so on.

Companies sometimes seem to have this thing of humiliating people who announce they wanna quit.
I don't have that kind of $$ at all! I can see the humiliation happening so easily there!! There are people there who fly just under the radar of officially humiliating people.
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