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Old 01-25-09, 04:57 AM
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Better late than never eh?

Stress management group was canceled after our third meeting because it was down to two of us and that's too small to call a group. . .

Anyway, one of the handouts in the first session listed Behavioral, Mental and Relationship symptoms of stress, a number of which that I found remarkably similar to AD(H)D symptoms.

Behavioral:
Difficulty sleeping, emotional outbursts, irritation/anger/aggression, excessive eating/loss of appetite, difficulty relaxing, avoidance, withdrawl, inactivity
Mental:
forgetfulness, dull senses, low productivity, negative attitude, confusion, lethargy, whirling mind, no new ideas, boredom, spacing out, negative self talk, poor concentration.
Relationship:
Isolation, intolerance, resentment, loneliness, lashing out, hiding, clamming up, lowered sex drive, nagging, distrust, lack of intimacy, using people, fewer contacts with friends.

I exhibit about 95% of these symptoms. . . is it stress, AD(H)D, depression, all of the above, none of the above, something else entirely?
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

So, could an untreated concussion as a child cause ADHD that simply went undiscovered for years? Head trauma is one thing I've got to look into for myself. :P

Does herbicide poisoning cause ADHD symptoms only when it's occuring, or does the damage after the fact also mimic ADHD?

And I've got to look into the unipolar depression thing. What's the difference between that and inattentive-type ADD, and how would I be able to tell?
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

oh man, where to start?

some of these conditions are sooo rare and do not present with ADHD symptoms at all. somebody else went through the entire list with good counter points so i won't do it, but i believe posting something like this is quite alarmist.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

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So, could an untreated concussion as a child cause ADHD that simply went undiscovered for years? Head trauma is one thing I've got to look into for myself. :P

Does herbicide poisoning cause ADHD symptoms only when it's occuring, or does the damage after the fact also mimic ADHD?

And I've got to look into the unipolar depression thing. What's the difference between that and inattentive-type ADD, and how would I be able to tell?
my brother had a traumatic brain injury when he was 2 and he has extreme ADHD symptoms.

unipolar depression isn't anything like ADHD. depression includes emotional and psychological symptoms that can occur with ADHD but are not ADHD. suicidal thinking/gestures. constant low psychological behaviour. it's just not ADHD.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

I've read a lot of places (especially Sari Solden's book) that depression can look a lot like inattentive ADD, in addition to oftentimes occuring with it. And depression is not limited to suicidal thinking and gestures; a lot of people are depressed for a long time before arriving at suicidal ideations or behaviors, so that can't be used as a diagnostic basis.

And doesn't inattentive type ADD include "constant low psychological behavior"? I'm not trying to be a b*tch, I'm just trying to clarify, because your statement seemed a bit contradictory.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

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my brother had a traumatic brain injury when he was 2 and he has extreme ADHD symptoms.

unipolar depression isn't anything like ADHD. depression includes emotional and psychological symptoms that can occur with ADHD but are not ADHD. suicidal thinking/gestures. constant low psychological behaviour. it's just not ADHD.
I had a severe head injury when I was four, my head bounced off of the dashboard and I still have the Jeep oil gauge ring right in the middle of my forehead. I assume that is enough to cause some frontal lobe damage. I have spent the rest of my life in and out of depression and wold be brought to tears trying to force myself to focus in school. I was recently diagnosed, again, for ADHD. The first time three years ago, I was diagnosed ADHD and Bi-Polar so I was put on Depakote and that sucked the life out of me. Recently I the test results just say ADHD and I have been put on Adderall. From my reading I definily match may of the symtoms of ADHD-PI and there is a very strong connection to head trama. Is this really common? Is your brother ADHD-PI?

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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

No one has mentioned PSTD as mimicking ADHD yet.

I found this artical which looks good.

http://www.nhchc.org/Network/Healing...alingHands.pdf

Now if we adress CPSTD which is say someone who is brought up in a dysfunctional home and was bullied etc . from age what Five?

which By the way is why many children who have ADHD are treated. poorly ..

I suppose the thinking would be then these ADHD "like' symptoms would be long standing also . so that would rule out long standing as a positive indicator of ADHD,

talk about caught in between a rock and a hard place.. :P

So I guess having had to be put in a harness at a age two and three because the child was bouncing off the walls running at nine months never learned to walk first.

might THAT qualify ..


I really think people need to be given meds ( If they want to try }to see if it will change thier lives when these fine points are being discussed while people continue to suffer..
PERIOD .

If the person gets worse . it may mean another problem exists . Or try something else.

I guess this is yet another draw back of an individual whos sought help for years and the diagnosis of ADHD is missed and you have all the trauma stuff out there so theres this .

"Oh wait ."
it may not be that.

For cry out loud.

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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

That is a fantastic list. As far as others who disagree, just to bust your chops, Don't you guys watch House ?
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

too impatient to read pages 2 and 3, hope this hasnt been said, but i got another one to add:

X) children (and adults) not being kept appropriate to the species.

i think working 20 hours a day with 2 hours sleep a day, all sitting in front of a pc without any physical activity, but lots of mental stress instead, is NOT an appropriate to the species life for most people.


as a side note... wow, here i found another dozen comorbid disorders / causes i could have. yay?

for example, i was never checked for heavy metal poisoning. that could be, i guess. i ate a lot of mercury as a kid (swallowed my many amalgam fillings while eating seafood).
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Life stresses can cause some of the same symptoms of a ADHD children Life altering such as moving to a new town and/or school, traumatic experiences, any form child abuse, the death of a loved one, divorce and even the birth of a sibling. It is imperative that the diagnosis be conducted by a medical professional who is trained in wide variety of child and adolescent disorders.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Welp, the doc finally got back to me, turns out I don't have ADD (still think I do to a certain extent, but I got a new thing to add to this list

Post-chemotherapy cognitive impairment (also known as chemotherapy-induced cognitive dysfunction, chemo brain or chemo fog)

"Memory loss, attention deficits, difficulty learning, and mood changes are commonly reported side effects of chemotherapy."

I had chemo almost 9 years ago
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Hi Bob,

When I read NINE yaers I thought.. BS ! but apparently its possible .

If you had the syptoms befor chemo that would point to ADHD.


Don't let that keep you from getting meds..

http://www.breastcancer.org/treatmen...uestion_04.jsp



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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

I had chemo when I was 11 (19 going on 20 now)... so I honestly didnt notice much from chemotherapy... I did notice a slow decline in my grades, and a lingering sense of impending doom which struck last semester.

I can't seem to focus on things I don't want to do, like HW, and stuff, unless I do it at the very last minute. And I believe that aspect... 'laziness' as it seems, has been around before chemo. Even going through Chemotherapy, I felt very indifferent through the whole process... I just was along for the ride so to speak. I'm still like this today, I live day by day, and have little motivation to do otherwise.

They said I wasnt as figity as and ADDer would be. But I know i am !%#!ing figity. Right now I'm sitting on my chair backwards, in some weird position. I've always played with random things laying around... and I'm pretty damn impulsive.

Well I set up an appointment with a Pdoc, I think a little push could go a longgg way in my situation, so that gives me hope.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

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I had chemo when I was 11 (19 going on 20 now)... so I honestly didnt notice much from chemotherapy... I did notice a slow decline in my grades, and a lingering sense of impending doom which struck last semester.

I can't seem to focus on things I don't want to do, like HW, and stuff, unless I do it at the very last minute. And I believe that aspect... 'laziness' as it seems, has been around before chemo. Even going through Chemotherapy, I felt very indifferent through the whole process... I just was along for the ride so to speak. I'm still like this today, I live day by day, and have little motivation to do otherwise.

They said I wasnt as figity as and ADDer would be. But I know i am !%#!ing figity. Right now I'm sitting on my chair backwards, in some weird position. I've always played with random things laying around... and I'm pretty damn impulsive.

Well I set up an appointment with a Pdoc, I think a little push could go a longgg way in my situation, so that gives me hope.
Not all ADDers are figity. If you're ADHD-PI or combined, you may not be figity. Although, it does sound like you may be figity.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Maybe I just didn't see it...but how is anxiety/depression NOT on here? They have identical symptoms sometimes. So much so that most are diagnosed with anxiety instead of ADHD.
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