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Re: How can we best promote general ADHD awareness, while acknowledging our differenc

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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...KpbT940tESkewg

Slightly off topic but I think you might find it interesting. It's on the role of environmental influences on the pre frontal cortex and specific executive functions.
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Considering general development (genes x environments) helps promote general developmental strategies.

Especially for children born with more sensitive temperaments to environmental conditions.

Thanks for the article. There is lots more specific individually complex topics from the article to discuss more in depth, in a thread from the future called:

"How can we best promote individually complex ADHD awareness, while acknowledging our general similarities"


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Re: How can we best promote general ADHD awareness, while acknowledging our differenc

I think one of the important ways we can promote awareness is on the every-day personal level. Not remaining silent when there's a situation in which ADHD is a topic of conversation. Letting people know that many of their friends have ADHD regardless of their age, that it is under-diagnosed, and not allowing misrepresentations of ADHD to go unchallenged in ordinary conversation.
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Re: How can we best promote general ADHD awareness, while acknowledging our differenc

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I think one of the important ways we can promote awareness is on the every-day personal level. Not remaining silent when there's a situation in which ADHD is a topic of conversation. Letting people know that many of their friends have ADHD regardless of their age, that it is under-diagnosed, and not allowing misrepresentations of ADHD to go unchallenged in ordinary conversation.
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It makes sense that you can identify with, and want to help lessen the pain that people who have ADHD feel.

I am also interested in the topics mentioned above.

Everyone has been doing very good at keeping discussion focusing on general parts that are least controversial, in this thread discussion.

I don't always express myself well, but I sure feel understood so far in this thread.

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Re: How can we best promote general ADHD awareness, while acknowledging our differenc

Another thing I hope many of us will do is sort of cultural, showing by our lives and our actions that people with ADHD are part of making the world better than it has been.

That only happens when we're sure that people know we do have ADHD.
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Another thing I hope many of us will do is sort of cultural, showing by our lives and our actions that people with ADHD are part of making the world better than it has been.

That only happens when we're sure that people know we do have ADHD.
ADHD was the topic today on the Nature of Things (science documentary), and if I understood correctly, all Canadian correction facilities are testing all inmates for ADHD? (I have not verified the information yet, but if it is so, that will be good.)

The documentary on the Nature of Things was really good, but what the documentary did not discuss was essential information about how normal human self-regulation develops in interaction with the environment (genes x environment) in general.



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Re: How can we best promote general ADHD awareness, while acknowledging our differenc

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ADHD was the topic today on the Nature of Things (science documentary), and if I understood correctly, all Canadian correction facilities are testing all inmates for ADHD? (I have not verified the information yet, but if it is so, that will be good.)

The documentary on the Nature of Things was really good, but what the documentary did not discuss was essential information about how normal human self-regulation develops in interaction with the environment (genes x environment) in general.
Yes, that's background information that people don't need to know and aren't interested in hearing, in terms of ADHD awareness and acceptance. Or perhaps it's not so much them not needing to know it - maybe more like the show's writers knowing that people aren't going to listen if that part is emphasized. Even a show like The Nature of Things must remain conscious of entertainment and viewer ratings - otherwise people simply change the channel and hear nothing at all about ADHD.
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Yes, that's background information that people don't need to know and aren't interested in hearing, in terms of ADHD awareness and acceptance. Or perhaps it's not so much them not needing to know it - maybe more like the show's writers knowing that people aren't going to listen if that part is emphasized. Even a show like The Nature of Things must remain conscious of entertainment and viewer ratings - otherwise people simply change the channel and hear nothing at all about ADHD.
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There is no doubt that AD(H)D (aka deficits of self-regulation) exists.

There is no doubt that we have deficits of self-regulation (aka AD(H)D).

There is also no doubt that we have differences in individual inherited temperaments and individual experiences, resulting in deficits of self-regulation.

How can we best promote general ADHD awareness, while still acknowledging our individual causation differences?


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To be honest, I don't want to.

I can't think of a single instance in which people who belonged in a minority (whether ethnic, ability, disorder) "increased awareness", and did not simultaneously increase acrimony against their cause.

Speaking as one who not only has ADHD, but somewhat impaired vision, is a religious minority, and whose color engenders "interesting" racism", I am convinced that it's futile to expect the rest of the world to change their views.

Rather, it is MY JOB to figure out, with my ADHD, and all that other stuff, what is the best path for me to pursue, in the hopes of achieving a life in which I find bliss.

And you know what? That job is true for 100% of all humans on the planet.

Which is kind of cool, because it means, in the most important aspect possible - I really am one with the fabric of human existence. I belong!

As an example of what I mean, I have found it about 25 times as useful to not tell the boss I have ADHD but rather tell her where I have weaknesses - messy desk, slipped deadlines - and tell her, therefore "it's OK if you pester me about deadlines more often than you might pester others." In other words I told the boss how she could help me...not my ADHD.

And, if you really want to raise awareness, then tell me this - can you find a single-paragraph explanation about ADHD that informs people what they can expect out of someone who has it, and what kind of "accommodations" you're asking them to make? Having worked the other side of the HR desk, I have never once seen any such explanation that in any way, informs a business how they can accommodate one with ADHD. I know, business isn't everything.


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To be honest, I don't want to.

I can't think of a single instance in which people who belonged in a minority (whether ethnic, ability, disorder) "increased awareness", and did not simultaneously increase acrimony against their cause.

Speaking as one who not only has ADHD, but somewhat impaired vision, is a religious minority, and whose color engenders "interesting" racism", I am convinced that it's futile to expect the rest of the world to change their views.

Rather, it is MY JOB to figure out, with my ADHD, and all that other stuff, what is the best path for me to pursue, in the hopes of achieving a life in which I find bliss.

And you know what? That job is true for 100% of all humans on the planet.

Which is kind of cool, because it means, in the most important aspect possible - I really am one with the fabric of human existence. I belong!

As an example of what I mean, I have found it about 25 times as useful to not tell the boss I have ADHD but rather tell her where I have weaknesses - messy desk, slipped deadlines - and tell her, therefore "it's OK if you pester me about deadlines more often than you might pester others." In other words I told the boss how she could help me...not my ADHD.

And, if you really want to raise awareness, then tell me this - can you find a single-paragraph explanation about ADHD that informs people what they can expect out of someone who has it, and what kind of "accommodations" you're asking them to make? Having worked the other side of the HR desk, I have never once seen any such explanation that in any way, informs a business how they can accommodate one with ADHD. I know, business isn't everything.


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Thanks, for your perspective.

I did not specify clearly enough, but I was also thinking about how can we promote general awareness among ourselves with ADHD.

For example.

If both parents have ADHD and they are expecting a baby.

It would be good to be aware of how self-regulation normally develops.

It would be good to know how to accommodate, if their infant is born with a more hypersensitive temperament, etc.


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