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Old 11-10-18, 12:44 PM
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Is it common.........

For sleep problems to occur when medication isn't fully addressing focus and concentration? Currently, I've had trouble sleeping for the last week, which was completely contrary the week before. I'm wondering if it's a rebound effect? The first week I was on it, I had horrible crashes that made sleep easier to come by. The next week, Adderall keeps me up and I have to force myself into sleep, often waking up at least 3 times during the night before going back to sleep. It's like I feel tired by yawning and everything, but I can't physically fall into a deep sleep. I don't feel wired or anything. I would describe it as a wakefulness I was never much familiar with before, but I still find myself unable to concentrate, distracted by what's around me. It's getting more frustrating with the sleep problems, especially around 4 or 5 in the afternoon, when I find myself shifting between being awake and tired. My guess is this is the time period when it's starting to wear off.

So far, I've had the weirdest reactions to Adderall at 7.5, 10, and now 12.5mg. What I noticed in all three cases is how inconsistent it was. There were times I'd feel the benefit-- the ability to concentrate by filtering outside distractions. And then, out of the blue, I'd get the opposite reaction with a host of side effects-- dull thinking, feeling mentally slow. That's just to name the mental side effects. After about another week, these problems go away without addressing the focus and concentration. As part of the inconsistent results, there were many days where one dose worked better than the other: between morning and noon. Again, in all three cases, eventually things normalize but the lack of focus and concentration was still present.

Is it possible that I haven't found the right dose yet, and perhaps, this is why I'm having these problems? The only other option I have with my doctor is Vyvanse, and that alone won't cover me like I want: 14 - 15 hours in a day. If we go that route, is it possible to take Vyvanse twice a day? I'm so scared to tell my doctor about the sleeping problems for the fear that she won't at least experiment with 15mg for two weeks, see what it does.

On a final note, it's hard to tell what Adderall does when I haven't reached a consistent level of focus and concentration. It's like I haven't yet met my ADD medicated self yet, compare it to the old me. There was a time it was obvious when it was wearing off, with duration ranging from 2 - 3 hours of effectiveness. The last week, as in the other cases, I have no way to know, especially since I don't experience rebounding-- a sign I needed to dose again.

Any insight would be appreciated, thanks.


*I cut out caffeine, don't consume anything with caffeine in it, such as coffee flavored yogurt or muffin mix with coco powder in it. I also take the medication twice a day, around 8AM and then around 12PM.
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Re: Is it common.........

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For sleep problems to occur when medication isn't fully addressing focus and concentration? Currently, I've had trouble sleeping for the last week, which was completely contrary the week before. I'm wondering if it's a rebound effect? The first week I was on it, I had horrible crashes that made sleep easier to come by. The next week, Adderall keeps me up and I have to force myself into sleep, often waking up at least 3 times during the night before going back to sleep. It's like I feel tired by yawning and everything, but I can't physically fall into a deep sleep. I don't feel wired or anything. I would describe it as a wakefulness I was never much familiar with before, but I still find myself unable to concentrate, distracted by what's around me. It's getting more frustrating with the sleep problems, especially around 4 or 5 in the afternoon, when I find myself shifting between being awake and tired. My guess is this is the time period when it's starting to wear off.

So far, I've had the weirdest reactions to Adderall at 7.5, 10, and now 12.5mg. What I noticed in all three cases is how inconsistent it was. There were times I'd feel the benefit-- the ability to concentrate by filtering outside distractions. And then, out of the blue, I'd get the opposite reaction with a host of side effects-- dull thinking, feeling mentally slow. That's just to name the mental side effects. After about another week, these problems go away without addressing the focus and concentration. As part of the inconsistent results, there were many days where one dose worked better than the other: between morning and noon. Again, in all three cases, eventually things normalize but the lack of focus and concentration was still present.

Is it possible that I haven't found the right dose yet, and perhaps, this is why I'm having these problems? The only other option I have with my doctor is Vyvanse, and that alone won't cover me like I want: 14 - 15 hours in a day. If we go that route, is it possible to take Vyvanse twice a day? I'm so scared to tell my doctor about the sleeping problems for the fear that she won't at least experiment with 15mg for two weeks, see what it does.

On a final note, it's hard to tell what Adderall does when I haven't reached a consistent level of focus and concentration. It's like I haven't yet met my ADD medicated self yet, compare it to the old me. There was a time it was obvious when it was wearing off, with duration ranging from 2 - 3 hours of effectiveness. The last week, as in the other cases, I have no way to know, especially since I don't experience rebounding-- a sign I needed to dose again.

Any insight would be appreciated, thanks.


*I cut out caffeine, don't consume anything with caffeine in it, such as coffee flavored yogurt or muffin mix with coco powder in it. I also take the medication twice a day, around 8AM and then around 12PM.
Ive seen you post about your issues with adderall before and then reference vyvanse as the alternative. It is NOT an appropriate alternative if you ask me. Dexedrine IR or Dexedrine spansules would be perfect for you. (used to be brand name dextrostat but only generics are made now. The Aphetamine in the adderall is fine but it contains 25% or so of levoamphetamine which can cause excess PNS and CNS stimulation, hyperfocusing and that crappy feeling in some people. Dex is just plain old amphetamine. Vyvanse..(I have a hug bias against so I will spare you) contains lixto-something or other which gets converted into dextroamphetamine through the digestive process and such. Its angle used to be "abuse proof" and then "lasts all day". Personally it too too long to work and did not last all day and as far as I am concerned, anything can be abused.
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Re: Is it common.........

Lo and behold, in one of my sessions with my doctor, I did mentioned Dexedrine once before, something I was prescribed in high school but never took due to emotional difficulties during that time. I was too young then to understand why I needed medication to manage ADD, let alone feeling more retarded because I have LD too and that made managing emotions harder to do.

My doctor told me how she didn't feel comfortable prescribing Dex because she has no experience with it, which made me roll my eyes, (secretively.) The more I tried to talk her into it, the more combative she was. I couldn't understand her position. I mean, from my understanding, stimulants all work the same way, it's just a matter of finding which one works best. She doesn't seem to understand that lack of experience plays no factor, well it shouldn't. I think. She's one of those GPs familiar with the traditional line of ADD medications, which according to that logic, Dexedrine falls into that category. Again, in our conversation I mentioned this, and she insisted on saying no. After that I gave up, there was no changing her mind.

The problem for me is that I can't find a specialist in my area who accepts my type of insurance. If her boss doesn't have any referrals for me to see, something we once talked about but I cancelled that appointment in the hopes Adderall would work..........

I really try not to think about it, lose hope in everything. I was lucky enough to get 12.5mg prescribed after being treated like a drug addict. I have some ideas how to talk about it when I see her this coming week. Something tells me that if she isn't willing to try 15mg for two weeks, I'm stuck with Vyvanse. Doctors, scary how some are employed as such, dismissing what approaches might work best for their patient.

Last thing, I don't think it's hyperfocus like you mentioned. I can't focus on anything no matter how hard I try, symptomatic of inattentive ADHD. I can not, for the life of me, stay on one thought without being terribly distracted. Most of the time I feel stuck on thoughts. When the Adderall was working, I was better able to progress through my thoughts, distracted less.

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