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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

Ask your doctor for a prescription of 0.5mg of Risperdal. It will allieviate high anxiety and high libido but still allow ADHD meds to work for you. I can totally empsthize with you about the high libido effect. I HAD the same problem. Risperdal fixes it.
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

My sex drive hasnt been right since i was 19, im 27 now. I tried concerta and it was horrible all side effects. Hopefully next week my shrink puts me on adderall.

Does ADHD cause low libido?
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I have been looking all over. There were several forums on women being a small population whose sexual libido increased after taking Adderall. More often the not, it seems the general population experience lowered libido which is unfortunate.
However, my sex drive has always been very healthy. Sex several times a week (or more in a brand new relationship) has been my norm.
Sometimes, when I'm single, I'll take on a FWB situation (Friends with benefits) but monogamous until we meet someone new (which we would tell each other way ahead of time, so no broken hearts).
So yeah, I'm more of a monogamous type (though not traditional) so I had to explain this to segway into my next paragraph.

Since the adderall (been 4-5 months now), I've hooked up with 2 ex's, have an ongoing FWB, and trying to do a dating thing with another guy. This is very unusual for me. I'm not passing judgement on myself (or inviting judgement, thank you) but just mentioning it because my sex drive is so high, it's become sort of a problem.

I watch porn everyday. I have an account actually, where I've favorited quite a few. Again, I don't really think this is a problem, but the fact that I need to watch it, masturbate to it everyday (several times when I can get away with it), and need sex at least once a week to stay sane (just barely) is really really usual.

I wanted to share this to let other women know that they're not crazy and/or weird if they are experiencing the same thing, and I am seeking advice from those who have gone through this.

I should add that some possible contributing variables to this scenario is the fact that I get more sexual when under stress (and I'm finally graduating from my university, so currently, under stress), and I work part time (so I have more time than the average to watch porn at home, probably).

Also, just in case anyone is wondering, I'm 33 years old. The myth that women reach a crazy sexual peak in their early 30s might have something to do with this, if that rumor/ saying is true.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
To AllFiredUp, was it just a matter of summoning up more self-control? Or did you discover the urge lessened with time? (I'm not labeling you with lack of self control, just wondering if perhaps I just need to force myself to go out more, ect.)

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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

Assuming my post goes through, it was my first post. Sorry in advance if it made anyone uncomfortable. It's hard to describe symptoms and ask necessary questions, while maintaining honesty, given the nature of the thread (i.e. Sexual libido and Adderall)
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

I have been on Concerta after being diagnosed over a year ago and my libido has rocketed up. I find my self watching internet porn whenever I can, although I don't necessarily get a full erection. In fact, I have trouble ejaculating when having sex with my gf, but the desire is there. I have found myself watching internet porn for hours on end at night if I'm alone. It's the dopamine flooding our brains when we take the meds. I would get the same feeling from snorting cocaine when I was at college. Adderall/Concerata are chemically similar to cocaine
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

Omfg I'm so sure that d-amphetamine (key ingredient in adderall) is making me sexually impulsive ,....I've been really bad :/ I can't get enough :/ like the worst I've ever been
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

I actually found that Adderall causes premature ejaculation for me. Like really bad. I had some degree of it to begin with ever since I quit taking SSRI's. I guess with years of not having to restrain my orgasms, I have lost sexual discipline.

But Adderall makes my get off wayyy too fast. I just started taking it so maybe it will go away or lessen. I haven't had sex since I was on it. Masturbation lasted for probably 2 minutes but I can usually finish masturbating faster than I can finish sex. I guess I just know what I want better than a vagina does.

I'll report back with results after I have adjusted to the meds for you creeps that want to read about my sex life and shortcomings.
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First of all, I will say that I DESPISE street drugs! Crystal meth in particular is the most evil substance on the face of the planet.

But, I have to admit I experimented with it years ago and the hyper-sexual feelings (hornier than I thought humanly possible) are very similar. On Adderall it's milder and I have the sense that I can control it. On meth, I just went wherever my head (not the one on my shoulders) took me. I'm very fortunate that the times I tried it, I was at home rather than around lots of people.

Anyway, I get what you're trying to say scuro, absolutely! They are IMMENSELY DIFFERENT creatures, street drugs vs. prescription stimulants. One destroys lives, the other gives quality of life. The worst impression anyone could get is that Adderall/Ritalin/etc. are just legal versions of street drugs.

Had to throw in my two cents.
Provided the methamphetamine is pure and clean, it is just as, if not more, effective at treating ADHD as the standard Amphetamine Salts and Methylphenidate drugs, so long as it's taken at a therapeutic dose.

I've seen just as reckless abuse with drugs like Adderall as I have with methamphetamine. There are people that do upwards of 150mg of Adderall in a single dose which is just as neurotoxic as a good amount of meth. I'm in no way endorsing methamphetamine abuse, but I have done both meth (crushed in a capsule at a small dose) and it felt awfully similar to Adderall.

If I didn't get a diagnosis or a psych to treat me for ADHD, I would have resorted to methamphetamine and I would have saved a lot of money and probably would have been just as healthy as someone taking a prescribed med.

It's all about the dose and pattern of use. Without discipline you can get addicted to pretty much any drug that releases dopamine or gives you a sense of euphoria.
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

To Crosswired: I have the same issue a lot of the time. I get aroused super easily but it takes so much longer for me to achieve orgasm. Have you found any solutions? Please keep us posted : )
To Flona: Yes, me too! Hang in there and please update if you figure anything out!
To CthuluMinion: Hey, at least it's not the opposite right? I feel like that would be way more frustrating for me, personally. Good luck though!
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

I'm a 34 year old male, gay- who was diagnosed with ADHD a few months before my 11th birthday. Took medication until several months after my 13th birthday. Meds stopped abruptly and was sent to a therapist for cognitive therapy etc.

WHEN I stopped taking medication (Amphetamine Salts) is important here because up until a few years ago I had no thoughts/memories or concerns about why the meds were stopped by my parents. Dealing with this disorder thru my teenage & early adult years was not without challenge, but I've never put intense stock on pills because I've always had an opinion that Dr's tend to over prescribe...over treat etc.-because so much of the time they aren't really sure to begin with.

Life started to get a bit more challenging in my late 20's. A lot of significant emotional events (relationships, further embedded in career, owning a home--debt, dealing with aging relatives and deaths etc) became more pronounced just as a high percentage of people in the same general age range. At some point during my mid 20's I had visited the same therapist for basic follow up and to discuss how I've managed ADHD, which consequently ended up being "ADD" somewhere in there (Maybe as an adult the hyperactivity piece is more controlled?) but I never put much emphasis as to why that was etc.

The ONE place where ADD has been apparent is with my job. I work in a very fast paced, high energy environment---creativity, innovation, passion with a very family like-cohesive team culture. The whole multi-tasking piece was where I feel I was a train wreck consistently. Others around me including bosses have never given indication but I just felt like based on what I was seeing from others around me, something was missing. No health problems, healthy weight (5'10 175 lbs), no drugs other than general tylenol for the occasional viral thing, aches & pains etc. No blood pressure, cholesterol, sugar or any maintenance meds of the like. Healthy sexual relationships, exposure of "porn"/masturbation all within a range of others my age. Really, I didn't have any excessive and/or impulsive tendencies NOR did anything ever "morph" into a fixation or obsessive quality.

Makes me sound boring and average with every other person but honestly, nothing huge stood out to me or others around me--but I was still aware of those attention issues with regard to work and productivity etc. Sometime between 30-32 I began running late to work, events--anything associated with a time & punctuality where it would be easily noticed by others if there was a pattern etc. I didn't put much stock in that because up until this part of my life, I was always early or on time--occasionally would run late but always with justification. So now, I'm not really noticing until co-workers start casually asking "You've become a slacker of sorts--what's up with that! LOL". Boss wasn't getting on my case so....? Month over month--season over season, it just started becoming more of an issue & I was even aware but I couldn't really pin point it...I had started getting up 15 minutes earlier, pressed the snooze less, just obvious things like that. But to no avail, I always ended up looking at the clock at the same time as every other day and it was starting to feel like a "repeat".

My boss finally mentioned it, but it was very nonchalant...he stopped by my work area in a casual manner; very much different than getting hauled in the office and being given documentation with all of the days you've been late. As I started to really drill down at what was happening in the morning there were the obvious things to eliminated: occasional drinker--had a hangover maybe once a month in my 20's and now-if I have a hangover it's from a social event/holiday gathering. Social tobacco smoker--a pack every other month if that. No street drugs (smoked weed a few times in my mid twenties during a summer). My younger sister married a guy who has ADD so after we started getting together for sporting events & other similar interests, we became pretty tight and chatted some about ADD and how it was for us on a general level. He was already on medication and after discussing the whole morning deal, he thought going to the doctor wasn't a bad idea.

My doctor put me on Adderall SR....Not sure on the dosage/frequency but took it just as prescribed. Results came quick--the mornings ironed out and at work, everything even'd out. My boss even stopped by to mention that he's noticed that I've been more focused etc. Along with that came the side effects that probably anyone that has ADD can relate to: dry mouth, major appetite & less food intake during day, drinking significantly more water to stay hydrated, some moderate headaches--the stubborn ones that go away but are longer than you'd like, feeing "cold" (vaso-constriction) and some sleepless nights on occasion--but tweekd the dosing schedule to correct that.

But then on a more moderate level, there was a big shift in bathroom visits---I didn't have to **** as much but when I did, it felt like I couldn't empty my bladder--or it would take longer to do so...and there were times I would stop mid stream and then start again. It burned a little but I had seen that mentioned in drug facts etc. I also started having this "tinge" in my groin area and it was becoming more and more frequent and intense--it wasn't painful at all and actually as I continued to try to piece things together, I equated it with the feeling that you get right before you have sex. I had read about erectile issues or delayed ejaculation, but none of that was occuring--normal in those areas. Then of course libido...Not something the normal person analyzes, but it was obvious I was horny much more--really feeling like I needed to get off...thinking about sex in general and when alone--times of looking at adult flicks online, sometimes mast./sometimes not. This all just progressed in intensity and frequency each week... Being single, there wasn't any consistency so I had nothing to really gauge from... There were times I would hook up more for a week or two but then wouldn't for a few weeks or more (before going on the Adderall).

Hooking up got more frequent but still felt within my comfort level--I wasn't getting together anonymously with people, and still had that sense of importance with being responsible using protection etc. Sex every other night started becoming a nearly every night thing.... And then I started feeling like I wanted to do the j/o thing after getting home from work before sex with someone. Then I started wanting to later at night before bed. Called the doc went in to visit, got a general "There is an increase in libido for some when on Adderall"....but as far as the specifics with the feeling in my groin etc. not something he put much concern on. All of this progressed more and after a week where there had gotten together with two different people and two different times of the evening....I started to really worry significantly. Made an appt with the therapist, three weeks was the earliest I could get in. Frequency just continued to increase along with the amount of people becoming more consistent each night.

A week or two after that, there was a particular night I started watching flicks on the internet and while I was never a big rusher, I was sitting there for over 2 hours...two hours became four and four became six. There were now at least two to three days a week where I was staying up all night just looking at adult material. THEN, when I started finding that all of the people I "knew" were in bed because it was two AM and I had no one to call, I started chatting with girls online and got together with a few. This was officially excessive and out of control for ME. Clearly I was pushing those limits before--but I thought it was a transient thing--maybe a combination of increased libido and the effects of medication. Made sense right? So THIS...when I started chatting online with women then I knew how out of the ordinary it was. Called the doc AND therapist...Therapist still a week out with nothing earlier--the Doc and I talked on the phone, he just had this whole "I don't know" mentality.

As a last resort, I called my brother in law because I was really desperate to figure out what the hell was going on.... I wasn't keen on sharing THIS with him because it''s just not something you do this specifically and I was also worried he would think I was a head case. He came over, we had a few beers and I literally just said, "So Adderall and Sex...I've got this damn sensation down in my" he made this noise and I saw his eyes widen & like a little light kick on. It all got real from that point on. He spewed his experience it it sounded like I was talking! All the same issues, and even that he too had gotten so desperate that he THOUGHT about getting together with buddies he knew. Just that piece alone is amazing to me--that someone can completely negate their natural element of attraction--WHO THEY ARE for the sole purpose of "getting off".

He told me to get online and there it was...tons of other guys having the same issues--mass confusion, concern...questions....Lots of the same going on, yet--lots of people offering answers that didn't seem to jive with me... Like the one where someone says that once you medicate, you revert back to your "normal" habits...and that you must have had a propensity for hyper sexual behavor ie; Promiscuity, Heavy porn consumption, etc.--BULL.

I don't believe that. That's a convenient solution. When you see hundreds of guys with the same exact concerns as you whether they are into women, guys etc.--that is a good indicator of consistency as a whole. Then when you look it would appear that out of ALL of the people that suffer from ADHD/ADD that there would be much more about the issue online---more people, more information, more reasons why it happens--but then you've got to factor in that talking about sex is a very private/personal thing of which is never discussed or is only discussed on a general level.

There are probably a crap load of people that are petrified to talk about it because once they do, it is symbolic of admitting you have a problem. Then the medical community--sex is just one of those topics where you hear more silence than talking--and the silence seems to perpetuate a perception of consent or "YES, we know about it..but it's subjective and unique to each individual. So THEN you've got to wonder how many people haven't put much stock into this and have allowed it to manipulate them further away from their personal "limits".

In the end, my brother in law said they reduced his dose and this issue muted greatly, to where even though it's still present on some level--it can be managed by simple cognitive skills. I on the other hand needed absolution in knowing that this would completely stop before I could rationalize staying on the medication for however long.....So even at the strong urging from both my doctor and therapist, I abruptly stopped taking the pills for two weeks.

No sooner did I stop, I started noticing that every other day it was like going down another flight of stairs. I went back on at a different dosage level/frequency---and have even incorporated small break periods so I can keep my body confused so it doesn't easily get to that "threshold" where the medication feels like it is no longer working. This seems to work for me. And yes, all of this is still there but it's not like an evil obsession that has a hold on me, controlling me to excessiveness.

I realize this is long--but after what I have gone through and clearly so many of us have gone through, it's important to be transparent so there's a resource that can provide confirmation that this does occur so those in similar circumstances can ease their minds and know there are some steps to get back to a place they are comfortable with. I've also seen many responses from people who would prefer that this not become a "porn" related forum so as to not attract the wrong people...So I've tried to use care there while still being relevant.

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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

I have ADHD. I need Adderall... but then I get this same problem. Therefore I stop taking my medication but I need it to focus and succeed. It is utterly frustrating, sad, and depressing.
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

@kyle0838 - I had to re-read your post above a few times. You mentioned you're gay, but

the medication made you so horny you started having sex with girls!!? WOW!
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Re: Adderall=lots of porn/masturbation for anyone else?

I'm glad that these posts are here so I can see its not just me. I was diagnosed at age 51. I have seen other therapists in the past and none of them ever mentioned the possibility of ADD. So, who knows how accurate the diagnosis is, although it would explain certain things about my life, like procrastination, self medicating, some impulsivity.
But the WORST thing I think is this whole libido/sex thing. I was always super interested in sex, but not great at meeting women or picking up on cues. So I smoked a lot of pot which made me even hornier, but I could take care of things myself without wasting too much time.
So now suddenly I'm 52 and taking adderall for ADD and a small amount of paxil and metropolol. I'm already the type of person with a very strong sex drive, but the adderall just magnifies it to a ridiculous degree. So while it does help me focus a bit, that focus is now often directed to an hour or two (or more) of porn watching per day on average. But the thing is, I really enjoy these sessions a lot except for the guilt about the time factor. The problem part is that 1) ability to get erect enough to masturbate 'to completion' is tough, although I'm pretty good now at finishing even without an erection - not an easy task! Viagra works fine, but I can't take it every day! 2) My wife and I live in the same house, but are basically in a platonic relationship for the past several years. Been to lots of counselors so please don't suggest more - this is something that isn't going to change. I'm ok with that, but like I said the effect of the adderall combined with the lack of actual sex is not a good combination! I think women wanting a fwb will rarely have trouble finding one. But for men the odds aren't good. I can partially understand why some guys will turn to other guys, and I'm even ok with having a j/o bud to watch porn with, but that's about all I could do. I have no idea where I'm going with this either! Just saying that sexual effects of adderall can be pretty significant and I feel like if I can't find a satisfactory way to relieve it, I may have to stop taking it.
Maybe someone should start an ADD FWB website! Could be very useful!
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Adderall actually helped me to abstain a lot from porn. I started trying to do other things than watching porn, like working out, trying to take healthy risks, etc...
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I've been on Adderall for a couple of months now. I had pretty much lost all sexual interest prior to that due to heavy doses of anti-depressants for the last several years. That kinda sucks for a 29 yr old.

As soon as I started Adderall, my drive came back with a vengeance! It's almost like an obsession sometimes, particularly when I find myself spending hours online watching porn.

Has this or anything similar happened with anyone else taking it?
Yes most certainly my friend! Adderall could also be called this: "So why don't i just go on ahead and ADD this, I'll also go right ahead and ADD that as well" lol. Everything that was absolutely boring before...becomes a whole new world of possibilities. Especially when you first start taking it.
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