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VLCFA - Peroxisome - Mitochondrial connection

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With respect to modifications of VLCFA concentrations under stressful conditions, sparse data have been obtained but clear trends are currently emerging (Table 2). Overall, numerous abiotic constraints (salt, cold, hypoxia, heavy metal exposure…) were reported to increase VLCFA contents in distinct plant species.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...016.01490/full

Plants grown naturally (ie forced to survive in the wild) not given all that they need to survive (ie artificial fertilizer/pesticide
->
VLCFA production
->
PEROXISOME increase (to handle VLCFA) -> PPAR FAMILY NATURAL LIGAND
->
MITOCHONDRIAL benefit

So - not just vegan but natural, raw, vegan - we need the plants to 'try' - to help us out.

Also.

Pesticide effects on gut biome.
https://www.nature.com/articles/npjbiofilms20163

So Fertilizer + Pesticide out.

Permaculture in.

No Pain No Gain goes for plants and what we need from the plant.
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Re: VLCFA - Peroxisome - Mitochondrial connection

http://www.academia.edu/7443850/Glyp...odern_Diseases


(Glyphosate's Suppression of Cytochrome P450 Enzymes and Amino Acid Biosynthesis by the Gut Microbiome: Pathways to Modern Diseases)


https://enveurope.springeropen.com/a...302-014-0014-5



Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant genetically modified maize


Of course these thing need to be understood as general predispositions to illness rather than primary causes.
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Re: VLCFA - Peroxisome - Mitochondrial connection

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http://www.academia.edu/7443850/Glyp...odern_Diseases


(Glyphosate's Suppression of Cytochrome P450 Enzymes and Amino Acid Biosynthesis by the Gut Microbiome: Pathways to Modern Diseases)


https://enveurope.springeropen.com/a...302-014-0014-5



Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant genetically modified maize



Of course these thing need to be understood as general predispositions to illness rather than a specific cause of ADHD. In general though, it is best to look closely at these problems as a difficulty with production of energy or metabolic substrates which can exacerbate particular problems like ADHD.


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Re: VLCFA - Peroxisome - Mitochondrial connection

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Most of the Human diseases affecting westernized countries are associated with dysbiosis and loss of microbial diversity in the gut microbiota. The Western way of life, with a wide use of antibiotics and other environmental triggers, may reduce the number of bacterial predators leading to a decrease in microbial diversity of the Human gut.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...016.00455/full
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Re: VLCFA - Peroxisome - Mitochondrial connection

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Of course these thing need to be understood as general predispositions to illness rather than a specific cause of ADHD. In general though, it is best to look closely at these problems as a difficulty with production of energy or metabolic substrates which can exacerbate particular problems like ADHD.

Love the subject of biomics.

The basic takehome though is that we are bacteria and the bacteria like soluble fibre.

Anything that kills the bacteria will be bad for us.

So - let's take a look at all anti-microbial preservatives - the ones which make it through to the gut bacteria.

https://www.nature.com/news/food-pre...isease-1.16984
... ... ... this is appalling stuff - We are in need of rebooting.

What's the argument that we should use to solve all of these problems ?

Simply that the body evolved in nature to natural factors.

Any preservative which makes it to our bacteria will have an affect on us.

However what if the 'fresh' produce we're eating has been soaked in pesticides which target pathways in our biome ?

"An environmental concentration of Roundup has a sex-dependent impact on rat gut microbiome."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...14750017301129

We need to realise that we're in the midst of a transition from

industrial -> informational revolution
manufacturing -> virtual information

Human beings (with emergence of mind) as an information processing unit were only ever meant to be concerned with information handling ie developing personal quality in neocortical attributes. That's what the human mind was meant to be all about.

To become of ever higher quality.

Sadly - in the absence of understanding in context (ie generalized ToE) - human beings chased quantity of materialism not quality of individual defining quality of life.

-*-

How does all of this help us in our quest to understand whether fertilizer should be eliminated from agriculture, in our quest to understand how to remove pesticide also ?

The artificial factors we introduce are only there to ensure that a corporation makes profit.
If there were no 'profit' ie no money in the system - we would not do it to ourselves.

Human beings waste their lives trying to earn money to survive - but miss life in the process.
The process of life is to develop quality in neocortical attributes.

To become EVER better.
This is the ADD reward system.
Learning (true-sense) centric.

How does all of this help us in our quest to understand whether fertilizer should be eliminated from agriculture, in our quest to understand how to remove pesticide also ?
I can't pay attention to making money.
I don't become better through attempting to make money.

I can't pay attention to any task which does not result in improving neocortical quality.

People need to realise that nonADD/ADD alike are similarly construed and that we're required to change our mode of interaction from the competitive globalism that we have currently into a collaborative one~wrodl built on 'love'.

Love is strictly defined as motivation.

Higher reward system motivation - to be motivated to improve personal quality
as opposed to
Lower reward system motivation - to measure worth by capacity in beating others

Once all of the above ir realised - 'industrial globalism' will give way to 'informational one~world' and we'll dismantly profit-driven processes for natural sustainable processes. We'll eliminate the problems of fossil fuel waste, nuclear waste, plastic waste, e-waste -- because there's no profit motive driving its production.

Information requires our interaction with nature.

Sure - we'll have a little hardware in there - all that is necessary is an understanding that it need be sustainable and be repaired and recycled as necessary. Natural processes such as permaculture are preferred - instead of heating the house - let's have an annual migration to heat should we desire it.

What do human beings require ?
Heat - Sun - free
Migration to sun - a bus that we can all share over 2 hard block tracks
Energy - desert sun converted into hydrogen for transport over global natural gas lines
Water - local capture
Water - solar powered desalination
Solar panels - 100% recycling now possible
Food - aquaponics
Human waste - biogas and thereafter fertilizer (safe as we've removed the toxic drugs from our 'diet')
Shelter - Ikea wooden houses (automated planing) - problem of insulation removed
Information - servers in cold countries with access to geothermal energy - the servers+network deliver increased power NOT the local device ie local device does not need updating eliminating e-waste.

Food,Waste,energy,water,shelter -- information

The rest comes from lovely sustainable processes eg clothes (hemp), furniture (wood) ... ...

Anything's possible as long as sustainability is considered first and foremost - capacity to repair/100% recycle.

This is the process of autophagy.

If we don't ensure autophagy by killing off consumerism of simple carbs and protein - then we 'grow' uncontrollably.

The love of simple carbs and protein -> primitive reward system.

Primitive reward system + Morality -> Wisdom + Higher reward system.

However - in the absence of wisdom and in an environment in which the primitive reward system is not supported - the higher reward system will be the only one there - and so the mechanism of choice.

We can turn people wisdom-centric prior to wisdom by eliminating envieonmental selection of 'greed' by refusing to feed it.
Eliminate reward reinforcement of competition by local all inclusive co-operative formation supplying the list above ... ... and tell people to go do what they want in the rest of their time - and people will only be able to derive reward through personal qualty acquisition as there's no reinforcement of 'greed' to generate problems for the species.
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