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Old 05-30-12, 12:44 PM
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Moral Dillema

Most of the projects I get are students who don't want to do their college work and will pay a pretty penny for someone to do it for them. It's not illegal on my end (it is on theirs) but it's immoral by society's standards. My brother tore me a new one when he found out and I know my parents would too, but of course they have no room to talk.

All of us know how hard it is to find work in this economy and the extremely rich are using loopholes to get richer and keep it all to themselves. That's VERY immoral. I rescue animals, don't indulge in much, and use my money wisely so I CAN give back to the community.

So why do I feel so bad for doing this? It's definitely not my first choice, but it PAYS.
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Re: Moral Dillema

You're privy to an act of deception. That's the source of the sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach.

The students who are your clients are the ones upon whom the vast majority of the moral problem rests. Still, it's never going to feel good to be involved in something like this, even when you turn the funds so obtained to ends that are right and proper.

Very, very few things are actually cut-and-dried when it comes to serious ethical issues. My great-grandfather died young, leaving my great-grandmother with half a dozen children and no way to support them. She turned to bootlegging, even getting the kids to make surreptitious deliveries of liquor using their bicycles. Was what she did wrong? Sure, in several senses. She broke the law and doubtless fed several people's habits of alcohol abuse. But seeing the kids go hungry wasn't really an ethical option, was it? When times are tough, sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Where are you getting such projects?!? I would have no qualms with this.
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Re: Moral Dillema

What if the person you are writing the paper for is a pre med student>? Shouldnt people who will become doctors be able to say that THEY have completed their own work?
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Re: Moral Dillema

For some reason I thought this was about programming projects. It just seemed like it would be. Terrible assumption !
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Re: Moral Dillema

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What if the person you are writing the paper for is a pre med student>? Shouldnt people who will become doctors be able to say that THEY have completed their own work?

They will fail thier board exams or be driven out of residency like red headed step children at the family reunion.

To the OP, yep, you are participating in something shady. M

My advice for what it's worth...

So ******* what. Get something out of this for yourself. Double down. Double your prices but pull out all the stops and make damn sure these projects are A+ worthy.

Then apply the same ethics to your own studies.

As slimey as it might be to ghost papers, if it`s the grunt work you need to perfect your own art,so be it.
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Re: Moral Dillema

This is weird - it says you posted this discussion but I could swear I have read this same exact discussion on these boards before. I guess I'm experiencing deja vu.
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Re: Moral Dillema

So Mad...

I'm curious about how you developed your contract....

Have you ever attempted to enforce it in court? I'm a little worried that it may be unenforceable, if it's truly "illegal" as you say, for one party to the contract. (Although I wonder about that part. I can picture it being a basis for disciplinary action, but "illegal?" Hmmmmmmmm...). Anyway, that puts you at your clients' mercy because they can get the work product without paying you. ('Course, you could always withhold the work product until you have the cash in hand...)

I'm not sure if you have specialty topics, but there are a lot of people who hire ghost-writers for blogs these days. Lawyers do that a lot.

And at least then your contracts would be absolutely enforceable.
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I feel really reluctant to judge you coz you've gotta eat.
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Re: Moral Dillema

Very interesting. I *could* sit in the bar and sell drugs. The demand is there; someone will do it. Yes, we could argue that one is illegal the other is not, but we all know that laws are socially constructed (as well as politically of course). I think bootlegging was just mentioned. So, maybe we could decide by what is more harmful? I think its pointless.

Listen. Unless you have a problem sleeping, or you are getting anxious, or its harming your health in some way, I would continue. Its work. You could be doing a lot worse than this to eat. Just like the drug dealer, if you don't, someone else will. Personally I think the students should do their own work, but really, they are only hurting themselves.
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So Mad...

I'm curious about how you developed your contract....

Have you ever attempted to enforce it in court? I'm a little worried that it may be unenforceable, if it's truly "illegal" as you say, for one party to the contract. (Although I wonder about that part. I can picture it being a basis for disciplinary action, but "illegal?" Hmmmmmmmm...). Anyway, that puts you at your clients' mercy because they can get the work product without paying you. ('Course, you could always withhold the work product until you have the cash in hand...)

I'm not sure if you have specialty topics, but there are a lot of people who hire ghost-writers for blogs these days. Lawyers do that a lot.

And at least then your contracts would be absolutely enforceable.
I usually get my money up front unless I have access to their professor. Then I can turn them in.
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