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Old 10-13-08, 01:22 PM
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Re: Diet and ADHD

It's a regular blood draw. And it did suck because no kid wants a blood draw. But it was worth it and it only lasted a few minutes.

If you are going to do a blood draw you might want to consider testing for vitamin and mineral deficiencies at the same time. Also testing for what ever diseases can mimic adhd like thyroid function and celiac disease.

I suppose you could do a rotation diet and see if that helps or makes anything reactions stick out. I am just beginning rotation diet, so I don't know the ins and outs of it. I know feingold support has a rotation diet menu posted. I haven't checked it out yet, but intend too. Also Doris Rapps books are helpful. Actually you can gain alot of information from her website without even buying the book.
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Re: Diet and ADHD

I think I will wait until next year to do the blood draw. I think I have found the major offenders, but it would be nice to get an official report from a doctor and to see what all the problems are. It would also help to have that before he starts school. I do think alot of Nicks weird and odd behaviors are due to food allergies and not his adhd. Mostly because the meds do not help those behaviors in the least, but taking certain food additives away does. But, after getting all those shots, I hate to take him back again to get another needle poked into him. What makes it worse was the Cat Scratch Fever he got four months ago and had to get shots and them three months ago had a compound fracture in his arm and had to get more shots. Luckily I am only a block away from the ER. So, he is soooo afraid to go to the doctor right now. He needs some time to forget all of this stuff. Luckily he is only 4 and probably will forget some of it.
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geez 20 track, that is alot. I don't even know what cat scratch fever is. I just thought it was a song (lol)!
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Re: Diet and ADHD

Crazy, I know! It made all his lymphnodes swell up and he looked sooooo scary! He had to have this high dose antibiotic cocktail that made him even sicker. Poor baby, he really has had a rough 6 months!

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Re: Diet and ADHD

Well, we went out to eat at a different restaurant today. Big mistake.

Within a couple hours my son's activity level was up, dark circles under his eyes were out and 3 hours later headache had started.

It's been 20 days since he last had a behavior issue. This wasn't what I call a meltdown, which is the ultimate in reactions, but it was definately a reaction. It started with an achy leg. Joint pain in often a symptom of an allergy. That was the very first symptom today. Allthough I don't officially count joint pain as a symptom. It's more of an observation I guess.

It's now 6:00 and he is in bed.

Not only has he been doing well for the past 20 days, but this very day he had a cub scout meeting in which his behavior was excellent. He behaved normally in the restaurant and then boom life changed.

For lunch he ate french fries which were probably cooked in tbhq and also looked like they had gluten on them. Also a small amount of marinated steak tips which could have had soy sauce(mold, soy), tomatos, etc. Let alone his mold allergy is a 4 and the doctor said not to eat foods that are 24 hours old. Who knows how old the marinaded steak tips were. Then there is always the artificials that can be in restraurant foods. Oh well, won't be eating there again.
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Re: Diet and ADHD

Hi. I'm just wondering if diet/nutrition has really been beneficial for people with AD/HD. I'm tempted to go as natural as possible but it seems like most people don't bother. I know it's a difficult thing to do in our society and I realize that we all react differently to everything.

But it seems like the meds I've been taking are not giving much relief for my symptoms. So I've been checking into supplements and am tempted to change my diet. I feel like if I was garenteed that my focus and concentration would improve if I change to eating mostly natural, I would do it.

I don't understand why I'm so reluctant to eat this way? Perhaps b/c it'll be difficult having my fiancee' cooking and eating "regular" food and me eating differently. And there is no way he'll eat all or mostly natural.

I don't eat badly now. But from just checking labels the past few days, I find that citric acid and red dye seem to be in everything. I'll eat french fries every so often and make sure I eat mostly low fat, high protien, med. carbs. I run everyday 4-8 miles and am naturally athletic looking (I wouldn't say "lean" or super skinny, but average)

Any suggestions, input, experience, advice, support is more than welcome!!!

I look forward to hearing your responses. Thanks very much.
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Old 10-21-08, 01:25 PM
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Re: Diet and ADHD

This is just my opinion only based on what I have seen with my son, and students with ADHD. If you are sensitive to chemical additives in your food, your body can either a) produce ADHD symptoms or b) make your ADHD worse by making the symptoms more intense. So, I suggest that you eliminate additives like artificial food coloring, flavoring,preservatives, and if you are like my son corn syrup and saciliates. If you notice a difference, then the Fiengold diet might help you a great deal.

I did not want to go full blown and buy the program so I simply took the artificial coloring out of my son's diet. Just that right there helped his hyperactivity and vocal outburst and aggression. Just to make sure, stupid me re introduced it a couple of week later. It was about an hour after that, that I googled Fiengold Diet. I does work for SOME people. The percentage of people it helps is a HUGE debate. I was luck and it helped myself as a child and now my son. (I no longer react to the chemicals but I still have ADHD. Knowing this, I have no problem taking medication and giving my son medication. I feel that the diet reduced the amount of meds he needs because the meds do not have to work overtime. The diet also does not wear off like the meds do at 5pm like the meds do. I see a change at 5pm still, but it is not a severe as it was before I put my son on the diet.

Anyhow, this is just what I have seen. You might want to try it. It does not work for everyone. But, it worked for me and my son.






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Hi. I'm just wondering if diet/nutrition has really been beneficial for people with AD/HD. I'm tempted to go as natural as possible but it seems like most people don't bother. I know it's a difficult thing to do in our society and I realize that we all react differently to everything.

But it seems like the meds I've been taking are not giving much relief for my symptoms. So I've been checking into supplements and am tempted to change my diet. I feel like if I was garenteed that my focus and concentration would improve if I change to eating mostly natural, I would do it.

I don't understand why I'm so reluctant to eat this way? Perhaps b/c it'll be difficult having my fiancee' cooking and eating "regular" food and me eating differently. And there is no way he'll eat all or mostly natural.

I don't eat badly now. But from just checking labels the past few days, I find that citric acid and red dye seem to be in everything. I'll eat french fries every so often and make sure I eat mostly low fat, high protien, med. carbs. I run everyday 4-8 miles and am naturally athletic looking (I wouldn't say "lean" or super skinny, but average)

Any suggestions, input, experience, advice, support is more than welcome!!!

I look forward to hearing your responses. Thanks very much.
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Re: Diet and ADHD

Changing my son's diet made a tremendous difference for him. We started with the feingold program, so we removed all the petroleum based artificial flavors, colors, perservatives and artificial sweetners. We limit corn syrup just because so many folks that I know from fg have a problem with it, but I have never made the connection. We have true allergies to some foods that happen to be salicylates (tomatoes and oranges).

If you read above you will have seen that we had rast allergy testing done for IGG and IGE allergies. This was very helpful as healthy foods can be a problem too. I just had mine tested, but don't have the results yet.


Doris Rapps elimination diet might be a place to start.

And if you are interested feingold is a good place to start. It can't hurt to get petroleum out of your diet and there is alot of support in the organization. Many of us move on from basic feingold and look at other common food triggers like gluten, casein, corn syrup etc.

Unfortunately there are no guarantees with anything. And it does take work. Not only that but you have to work really hard to get your triggers.

Let us know what you decide to do and how you make out. Good luck!
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Re: Diet and ADHD

Hi Bailee,

I totally bleieve diet/nutrition works, for a great many things. Specificially though, it has helped my son's ADD symptoms immensely. Give it a try. If you try the Feigngold diet, PLEASE be dedicated in doing so... otherwise you will not get true results.

I can't tell you how joyous it was for me to see even a glimpse of the smart little boy and his potential I knew was inside my son when we were starting Stage 1 of the diet. And now, 3 months in and working through Stage 2, I have a fun, witty little boy who is doing so much better in school and not just drifting through life anymore.

I am ecstatic at the results, and I tell everyone I know about it.

I am excited for anyone who chooses to embark on this diet, because it means HOPE for our children.
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Re: Diet and ADHD

Garbage in, garbage out. Diet is ESSENTIAL for ANYBODY's physical and mental health. If you eat without thought, you will be poisoning yourself in the world we have today. Removal of trans-fats and hydrogenated fats will not only severely reduce if not remove the current society's increased risk of many cardiovascular and metabolic diseases, it will make you feel physically better and mentally clearer. I find that an extremely high-protein diet (at least 1g of protein per lb of body weight) and maintaining the appropriate amount of calories for your physical makeup, muscle tone, and activity level is absolutely necessary to even made my medication work, let alone let me work on my own as I have for the last 20 years pre-Dx. There are some REALLY great posts on supplements here that I now follow religiously, much to my benefit and to the benefit of my medication's efficaciousness (Adderall). Remember, no medication (and no brain) will work without the fuel you need in the first place!
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Re: Diet and ADHD

Another blip in our diet.

Because of my son's mold allergy I bought a juicer. He isn't supposed to eat any processed foods including juice because you don't know if moldy fruit was used.

So I bought the juicer and we were juicing up a storm. We juiced carrotts, apples, oranges, pears, kiwis, berries, mango. You name it. We also started making fruit smoothies that were delicious and frozen treats.

It didn't take long till I was saying to myself "It's like he's worse".

I made no connection to the juicer what so ever.

Within a couple weeks we were back to square one. He wasn't responding when I said his name. He couldn't follow one step directions. He couldn't accomplish anything. I felt terribly for him.

Finally my sister helped me make the connection by noticing how many apples he ate on a terribly bad day. Duh! In the past he had trouble with too many apples because they are a salicylate.

He is now only having a couple golden delicious apples a week and we aren't eating such a crazy amount of fruit. I'm giving him fruits that are lower in salycilates. I need to figure out how much he can tolerate.


You have to watch your triggers with a diet. This one caught me off guard.

Because of this experience I decided to buy digestive enzymes specifically for phenols and we will also start using a better multi purpous enzyme.
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Re: Diet and ADHD

I know this goes in with medications, but I'd really try to stay away from antacid medications as much as possible. They increase your stomach pH (i.e. make it less acidic), which can result in a number of negative consequences. Weak stomach acid makes one more susceptible to food allergies, because food allergens are less broken down. As a result, their incomplete digestion can not only lead to allergies which can exacerbate ADHD symptoms, but they also reduce the absorption of key foods and nutrients which are used to treat ADHD symptoms such as B vitamins, omega-3's, etc. Trying to maintain elimination diets for food allergies can be difficult, but by keeping your stomach pH strong, it gives you a bit more leeway/breathing room with some of the other great strategies suggested above. An excellent thread on a great ADHD subtopic!
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Re: Diet and ADHD

I'm not giving an antacid. I'm using digestive enzymes. They are present in all of our bodies and raw foods. They help to further break down food particles and decrease allergic reactions to foods.

I don't recall reading that they change the ph of stomach acids. Infact they are designed to work in a variety of PH's.

Perhaps you were talking about something else and I am assuming you are talking about digestive enzymes. If not, where can I read about them changing ph?

From everything I've read they are designed to help the body do what it normally does by giving the body more enzymes to work with.
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Yes, a lot of fish does have too much mercury in it, but if you can find fish oil that's been purified that might be a good bet. Also, larger predatory fish tend to have more mercury than the smaller fish. They get more into their systems because they get contaminants from their prey as well. The good news is that the larger fish are the ones most frequently overfished, so you are also helping the environment when you avoid those!

Here is a helpful list I found: Safe Fish CHEC List I know there is a pocket guide you can print out somewhere as well, but I don't have time to look for it now.

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You can also get non-fish alternatives that should contain no mercury or PCBs at all. Flax is a very poor source of DHA and EPA but the supplements that contain extracts of farmed algae (algae is where fish get it from in the first place) are high in EPA and DHA and are very pure. If you google 'vegetarian DHA' and you should find a few.
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Re: Diet and ADHD

OK, sorry about the confusion. I was just checking to make sure you were not taking antacids because these definitely can weaken stomach pH and can increase allergies. You are right about digestive enzymes, they have very little effect on stomach pH. Sorry for any confusion on that last post.

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I'm not giving an antacid. I'm using digestive enzymes. They are present in all of our bodies and raw foods. They help to further break down food particles and decrease allergic reactions to foods.

I don't recall reading that they change the ph of stomach acids. Infact they are designed to work in a variety of PH's.

Perhaps you were talking about something else and I am assuming you are talking about digestive enzymes. If not, where can I read about them changing ph?

From everything I've read they are designed to help the body do what it normally does by giving the body more enzymes to work with.
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