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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

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We can do whatever we want...whenever we want..
The capacity to throw off inhibition and to behave as we wish - even though we realise any such behaviour does not conform to the socially accepted norm runs a parallel with the 'hypnotic state' or trance state.

An actual other state of consciousness within which we settle.

From a recent thread -
http://science.howstuffworks.com/sci...s/hypnosis.htm

"In this special mental state, people feel uninhibited and relaxed. Presumably, this is because they tune out the worries and doubts that normally keep their actions in check."
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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

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The capacity to throw off inhibition and to behave as we wish - even though we realise any such behaviour does not conform to the socially accepted norm runs a parallel with the 'hypnotic state' or trance state.

An actual other state of consciousness within which we settle.
I have ADHD, and I am a trained hypnotherapist, and I can tell you that having ADHD and being in a "hypnotic state" are not at all the same thing.

Moreover, if it was found that we *did* spend our lives in a semi-hypnotic state, anyone who has worked with people in such states knows that it is no way to be on a daily, constant basis.

Altered states of consciousness are helpful in controlled and specific circumstances. People have been using them for rituals since the dawn of time, and they are also handy for pscyhotherapeutic practice.

But to be constantly in that state would be completely dysfunctional.
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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

So very true.

However, ADHD is also equally real and true.

I personally don't care if the Scientologist's double park their space ship on

the moon.

It's when they blatantly lie about the proven existence of ADHD, that I'd like

to speed up their take off.

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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

Im calling for term limits.
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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

Applying term limits to adders is redundant...

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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

Well it would appear that being ADHD and hypnosis, is comparable IF the linked text provided in the post being refuted is read and considered objectively.

What is Hypnosis?

In this special mental state, people feel uninhibited and relaxed. Presumably, this is because they tune out the worries and doubts that normally keep their actions in check. You might experience the same feeling while watching a movie: As you get engrossed in the plot, worries about your job, family, etc. fade away, until all you're thinking about is what's up on the screen.

I believe the state is frequently referred to as "hyper focusing" and has been described here a number of times - Lack of inhibition for those who hold to the main stream point of view also fits


How Hypnosis Works

It provides an especially convincing explanation for the playfulness and uninhibitedness of hypnotic subjects. The conscious mind is the main inhibitive component in your makeup -- it's in charge of putting on the brakes -- while the subconscious mind is the seat of imagination and impulse. When your subconscious mind is in control, you feel much freer and may be more creative. Your conscious mind doesn't have to filter through everything.

~Underlining in quoted text added by me~


Reading the source material it is easy for me to see the resemblance between ADHD and being in an altered state of consciousness - Being ADHD myself I OFTEN feel as if I am living an alternate reality - I notice things others don't and I miss things others notice which naturally makes my reality some what different.

I don't subscribe to absolute terms of good and bad. I see some traits as being better matches with social expectation than others. I don;t think highly of most human societies so a bit of unconventional behavior that is not malicious is often a break in the mundane crap fest we call "social function"



The mind set of a fire fighter would work poorly in a system analyst. If an EMT approached saving my life the same way my CPA does my taxes I would die!


I believe diversity is a good thing - without it our species would have cease to exist long ago.Unpleasant diversity is a benefit to the society in which it exist as long as it is not overly destructive.
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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

And hypnosis ha exactly WHAT to do with the culture of ADDF?
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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

Rabbit trails are very much apart of the culture here.
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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

I absolutely have been trained in hypnosis.

However,I rarely if ever, use it though.

One of the last times was when our oldest had eye surgery.

It worked well for the anxiety and fear of pain,as well as the

the idea of surgery on the eye itself.

Now would my wife ever allow me to use it on her ?

As if.

She's like.... "Yeah right. I'd be clucking like a chicken. No way."

I'm like, "Moi ?"

Some people...go figure.

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Re: The PROS and CONS of the ADDF "Culture"

Interesting post. Important post. Reminds me of the deaf community and their tensions with the non-deaf community.

(1) IS there in fact a dominant "culture" here on the forums?
Just being ADD I think makes us an ad hoc group.

(2) If so, WHAT are its defining characteristics?
Our common shared issues.

(3) The Good?
There is a level of comfort in sharing ADD experiences that Non-ADDers would not easily understand. You can gain knowledge here.

(4) The Bad?
Feel limitations in the forum format.

(5) The Ugly?
None yet.
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