ADD Coach? Anyone every try this?

[entrepreneurKid]

Hey all.. I think I'll be trying this out, but it's all over skype/phone etc.. The coach lives in another state.

Anyway, anyone ever try this? Helpful? or......?......

[sarahsweets]

A moderator, anonomously ad has had an experience with a coach.

[entrepreneurKid]

Do you know if it was good? or..

[spunkysmum]

Never tried it. I think I did some looking into it once online and when I saw how much it cost, I figured if I had that kind of money to spend on that, it would probably mean my life wasn't going too bad in the first place. LOL

[entrepreneurKid]

Found one that charges 1.67% of your annual income. Let me know if you're interested. He's Christian too btw..

[addproud]

Not only have I tried using an ADD coach, but was very pleased with the results. Now we help coach others with ADD to take control of their ADD and maximize the gifts ADD gives them (like I did)

ADD coaching fees do not have to be high nor based upon a percentage of your annual income, nor expensive.

BTW the person who created life coaching (Thomas Leonard) designed it the help himself take control of his own ADD and enjoy life much more. It worked for him.

[JOHNCG]

Originally Posted by addproud

Not only have I tried using an ADD coach, but was very pleased with the results. Now we help coach others with ADD to take control of their ADD and maximize the gifts ADD gives them (like I did)

ADD coaching fees do not have to be high nor based upon a percentage of your annual income, nor expensive.

BTW the person who created life coaching (Thomas Leonard) designed it the help himself take control of his own ADD and enjoy life much more. It worked for him.

I have to say that I don't know much about ADHD coaching in itself, but I can only imagine that coaching (like CBT) would only be effective for adults with ADHD who were taking (and responding well to) stimulant ( or 'Strattera", etc medication.

[angora]

Originally Posted by JOHNCG

I have to say that I don't know much about ADHD coaching in itself, but I can only imagine that coaching (like CBT) would only be effective for adults with ADHD who were taking (and responding well to) stimulant ( or 'Strattera", etc medication.

You might be interested in this recent study:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content...244X-12-30.pdf

A Randomized Controlled Trial of CBT Therapy for Adults with ADHD with and without Medication

Margaret Weiss, Candice Murray, Michael Wasdell, Brian Greenfield, Lauren Giles and Lily Hechtman

Quote:
"This study supports previous findings that adults with ADHD are responsive to CBT intervention. It extends previous research in demonstrating that the impact of CBT can be demonstrated in both response of core symptoms and functioning, whether administered with stimulants or placebo. This is the first randomized, placebo controlled study to demonstrate that where CBT augments the effect of medication, we were not able to demonstrate that medication impacts on the capacity to learn the skills taught in CBT. This suggests that CBT therapy can be effective in adults with ADHD, even in patients who are not able to use stimulants."

[anonymouslyadd]

Originally Posted by entrepreneurKid

Hey all.. I think I'll be trying this out, but it's all over skype/phone etc.. The coach lives in another state.

Anyway, anyone ever try this? Helpful? or......?......

Yes, I used a coach in a similar scenario as you. The coach was not in my state, and we conversed over the phone.

She was excellent and a catalyst for changing my life. She was safe and understanding, the first person in my life to be like this. She taught me excellent strategies to cope with ADD. I'm much more organized because of her, and my car is spotless, ever since I worked with her.

I hope that helps you.

[ginniebean]

Where are the studies for the effectiveness of coaching?

[anonymouslyadd]

I don't know of any studies on the efficacy of coaching, but that doesn't eliminate the validity of my experience. Research is important, but I'm not going to wait to get my hands on a published study to try to get help for myself. When I was a newly diagnosed ADDer, I was desperate for help.

I was fortunate though. My coach had ADD and was very understanding. Her understanding what I was going through helped me want to listen to her.

By the way, I don't think coaching ought to looked through that lens alone. My coach was a trained therapist as well as a coach, and she gave me CBT. She taught me how to change negative thoughts, stay away from toxic people and reinforced when I didn't cross personal boundaries.

[alan1]

At the recommendation of my psychiatrist I tried a psychologist who had ADHD themselves. But by that time, I'd already read books by Hallowell, Barkley and Tuckwell and he said he didn't really have anything to add to that. Each of them have easy to read material and give lots of good advice.


"Found one that charges 1.67% of your annual income. Let me know if you're interested. He's Christian too btw.."

I can't imagine going to someone who would charge me based on my annual income. If that is intended to serve as a discount to the needy, they should just say so. Also have no idea why their religion is relevant to the conversation as ADHD crosses all lines.

[JOHNCG]

Originally Posted by angora

You might be interested in this recent study:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content...244X-12-30.pdf

A Randomized Controlled Trial of CBT Therapy for Adults with ADHD with and without Medication

Margaret Weiss, Candice Murray, Michael Wasdell, Brian Greenfield, Lauren Giles and Lily Hechtman

Quote:
"This study supports previous findings that adults with ADHD are responsive to CBT intervention. It extends previous research in demonstrating that the impact of CBT can be demonstrated in both response of core symptoms and functioning, whether administered with stimulants or placebo. This is the first randomized, placebo controlled study to demonstrate that where CBT augments the effect of medication, we were not able to demonstrate that medication impacts on the capacity to learn the skills taught in CBT. This suggests that CBT therapy can be effective in adults with ADHD, even in patients who are not able to use stimulants."

are unmedicated.

[JOHNCG]

Originally Posted by angora

You might be interested in this recent study:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content...244X-12-30.pdf

A Randomized Controlled Trial of CBT Therapy for Adults with ADHD with and without Medication

Margaret Weiss, Candice Murray, Michael Wasdell, Brian Greenfield, Lauren Giles and Lily Hechtman

Quote:
"This study supports previous findings that adults with ADHD are responsive to CBT intervention. It extends previous research in demonstrating that the impact of CBT can be demonstrated in both response of core symptoms and functioning, whether administered with stimulants or placebo. This is the first randomized, placebo controlled study to demonstrate that where CBT augments the effect of medication, we were not able to demonstrate that medication impacts on the capacity to learn the skills taught in CBT. This suggests that CBT therapy can be effective in adults with ADHD, even in patients who are not able to use stimulants."

That study and another five of the most recent clinical trials of CBT in adults with ADHD (that showed some promise) are reviewed in a separate chapter of a new scientific reference called: ADHD in ADULTS- Characterization, Diagnosis and Treatment by Jan Buitelaar et al, (2011), Cambridge University Press.

Weiss et al, and one (I think, from memory) other study in the group of six, make the claim that their results demonstrate the efficacy of CBT for adults with ADHD who are unmedicated.

In the chapter above, however, the authors of the CBT review point out a number of serious methodological issues in these two studies, which tend, I think, to take a lot of the "punch" out of their "CBT effective without meds" claims.

As far as the treatment of the symptoms of ADHD - (note: ADHD, not its common Axis - I comorbidities, or the affective/emotional fallout from any other "associated problems" that frequently co-exist with adult ADHD) - is concerned, the majority of the six CBT studies, clearly acknowledge that failure to first remediate the ADHD core symptoms ( of inattention, impulsivity, hyperactivity) and, for example, the symptoms of the disorder that are generated by ADHD-driven Executive Function impairments , through treatment with stimulant drugs ( or, I suppose, "Strattera") will seriously diminish the prospect of any CBT therapy being successful.

Getting back to this new book on ADHD in adults; if you are interested in the science of the topic, then I would say it's well worth your while buying a copy. Published in 2011, it contains a lot of very up to date research and all sorts of other information about a wide range of adult ADHD issues. Its a high quality, legitimate ,science-based document and contains chapters written by top experts like Russell Barkley and Biederman amongst others.

NB: Coaching is an entirely different ball of wax from CBT.

[JOHNCG]

Originally Posted by ginniebean

Where are the studies for the effectiveness of coaching?

In the new adult ADHD book I mention in the post I just sent on this thread (immediately above this one)

Regards,

J