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Old 03-17-15, 05:03 AM
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Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

I do. So many times I hear of people that are in recovery saying they dont take anything, incuding adhd meds because its considered addictive and mood altering, even though there are tons of studies proving that treating adhd can reduce the chances of drug and alcohol abuse and that untreated adhd can lead to alcohol and drug abuse.
What if someone had a past addiction to speed/meth/crack? Would they not be a candidate because their drug of choice was a stimulant therefore they shouldnt be allowed to take stimulants?

I am just curiouse because Ive heard of people in recovery being denied proper medication because of some irrational fear that the person will relapse or not responsibly take their meds. I guess it would be something that the addict would have to build trust with- making sure to communicate and be up front and honest with the doctor until a solid relationship was formed. All opinions are welcome just say them with kindness,compassion and empathy.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

so far as i know, the studies that have been done say that taking stimulant meds reduce the risk of future addiction, including addiction to the meds themselves.
so i think if we're going to have a policy based on science, we'll allow a recovering addict to take meds.

ive linked to some sources for this n pub med but i dont feel like looking through my past posts.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

i have no problem with this as part of a individual call with adequate ( usually more intense ) lifestyle intervention / monitoring / support.

here is the crux imho. well that's just it. without the supplimental guidance... it's the void and the out that intensify. the "history" is merely an indicator of past coping mechanism / propensity to crux. which manifests from lack of... not availability of.


so, yes. individual? well, if the prescriber sees little adherance/response to supporting therapies mostly amongst other indicators then on a one on one basis yes they may be "situationally" declined with this as a key factor. with ADHD, facilitation trumps history hands down.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

Yes. But I truly believe that it depends upon the individual.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

And, depending on the individual, it will/may change their lives forever.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

I mean yeah, I feel like craving stimulation, therefore getting addicted to things, is a symptom of ADHD, so it doesn't surprise me at all to hear that med treatment reduces the propensity to become an addict.

I mean the thing is, I've known of different ADHDers with lots of different addictions (especially when they're untreated), it could be.... Alcohol, drugs...or it could be! Cigarettes, sex, exercise, the Internet! To me it's like...the fact that sometimes it's drugs/alcohol is bad luck, it could be anything and it depends on what's available. Does that make sense? So yeah, I think ADHD addicts should be allowed to be treated.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

If someone is self medicating and becomes psychologically dependant on drugs or alcohol should they even be branded addicts when a simple switch to medication works without withdrawal?
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If someone is self medicating and becomes psychologically dependant on drugs or alcohol should they even be branded addicts when a simple switch to medication works without withdrawal?
Forgive me if I've misunderstood, but I just want to make sure I understand. Is this what you are saying:

Someone who is using non-prescribed drugs or alcohol to self-medicate their disorders, could just as easily and effectively medicate themselves with legal prescription drugs taken as directed, and if they were to make the switch they would experience no withdrawal because the legal and illegal drugs are so similar.

Considering that, why do we consider the person taking the illegal drugs an "addict"? Isn't he doing the same thing the medicated person is doing, except for the fact that we technically choose to call one 'legal' and the other 'illegal'.


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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

After a period of "dry time" to let the brain "reset I think proper medical treatment along with ample supervision in the early phases of treatment would decrease the chances of "relapse". Why should some one be forever punished via denial for being able to figure some chemical changes were needed because "trying harder" just was not working!!!!

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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

If someone can go from needing to get "high" on illegal and unprescribe drugs to medication without needing to get "high", then theres a difference. They no longer need to abuse drugs to escape their problems when medication helps to prevent the problems in a controlled manor with a a more clear focused mind set.

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If someone can go from needing to get "high" on illegal and unprescribe drugs to medication without needing to get "high", then theres a difference. They no longer need to abuse drugs to escape their problems when medication helps to prevent the problems in a controlled manor with a a more clear focused mind set.
I've not had any chemical addictions, so I don't know for sure but I don't think taking the prescription meds clears their mind so they don't need to get high.

I may be wrong, but I think they still experience all the withdrawal and other pains of getting clean.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

In that case they probably are addicts, but the point I was trying to make is that purely self medicating isn't anything to do with addiction.
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

well, there are studies that show stimulants can prevent future addiction

there are none though, that say stimulants can stop addiction , in fact studies attempting to use medication to stop current addiction are usually negative

so id say the person would likely have to be clean for awhile
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well, there are studies that show stimulants can prevent future addiction

there are none though, that say stimulants can stop addiction , in fact studies attempting to use medication to stop current addiction are usually negative

so id say the person would likely have to be clean for awhile
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Re: Do you believe alcoholics or drug addicts shoud be allowed to take stimulants?

The Research On The Use Of ANY Stimulant Medication For The Treatment Of ADHD, As

DECREASING THE RISK OF A SUD (Substance Use Disorder) Is OVERWHELMING.

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