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Drinking too much

Since I was 14-15 years old I always have been a quite heavy drinker. At that age I used to come home drunk a lot of times in the weekends. Then when I was about 17, I also started drinking on weekdays. Mostly when I had an hour in between classes or after school. in the area where I grew up it was quite usual for people to drink a lot.

Later when I started studying I kept drinking a lot and at times started to drink even more. Lately during the summer months this drinking really has gotten a bit out of hand. Therefore, a few days I have decided to totally quit drinking for a while. However, I find that it's very hard for me to cope. Next to coffee and water, I now sometimes drink non-alcoholic beers, so I still can have somewhat of the taste of beer without the alcohol.

Tonight I had a barbecue party with my family, something that in general isn't that bad. However, without the alcohol I feel a bit depressed and I've got some cravings. It's really difficult and I just need some support. This week I'm going to the hospital again where I'm treated for ADD. I'll bring up the problem I have with alcohol, but I just don't know whether I should take treatment or not. Is it an alcohol problem or just a liking for drinking a lot?
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Re: Drinking too much

If you don't drink alcohol, does that cause your body to be like "You *must* give me alcohol right now"? I know you said it gives you cravings, what I'm getting at is how strong are the cravings?

Is it like your body telling you "I fancy some alcohol" or is it like your body saying "I need some alcohol right now"
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Re: Drinking too much

It's not really my body saying it needs alcohol at the moment. Although I had times that I functioned badly without drinking. It's more like having a strong mental desire for alcohol and getting depressed when I don't get it. If I don't drink I just feel bored and I don't feel well in social gatherings.
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Have a drink then! win-win!

Unless your aim is to get DRUNK. Never pretty.
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Re: Drinking too much

Sounds like you only drink cause you're bored, might still be an idea to see if there's any alcohol help groups near where you live
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Have a drink then! win-win!

Unless your aim is to get DRUNK. Never pretty.
That's the problem a bit. There is no moderation with me. When I drink I drink heavily. Some weeks there are only one or two nights I get drunk, but there also regularly are weeks that I get drunk on three nights or more.

'I drink in moderation. 'Moderation' is an imaginary place that exists wherever I am.'
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Re: Drinking too much

I never get drunk, but my goodness, 2 or 3 cocktails (always liquor, never beer) in a social situation is just the ticket.

I’ll have a beer with a meal or whatnot, but otherwise, gimme Cosmopolitans!

Of course, I like the taste so much I end up drinking them too quickly, and that’s not so smart, but like I said, they taste so damned good.

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That's the problem a bit. There is no moderation with me. When I drink I drink heavily. Some weeks there are only one or two nights I get drunk, but there also regularly are weeks that I get drunk on three nights or more.

'I drink in moderation. 'Moderation' is an imaginary place that exists wherever I am.'
Probably best to stick with the 3.2 beer then.
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Re: Drinking too much

generally, "one glass too many," of wine
( before and through dinner)
its not a problem though! i enjoy this on weekends with friends
but i see how tt could get out of hand

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Re: Drinking too much

I drink in thr absence of anything else.that helps me cope with my emotions or.my issues. I've gone through phases of drinking way too much. One of them was really bad where I'd binge drink every weekend and had a drink every evening. Just something to take the edge off.

I used to need alcohol at social events too. mainly the chit chatting kind where you don't do anything but talk. They bore the hell out of me so alcohol helps. Hugely. Without alcohol many of them were painfully boring.

Then I started taking anti depressants and the cravings stopped. When ever I smoke I don't crave alcohol. When I was taking stimulants I didn't need alcohol at all.

And yeah, I always crave alcohol when my family is around

For me it's mainly another form of self medication. Could it he something similar for you? A coping mechanism? Do the stimulants help you?

I've found that a decent substitute is actually coke (the drink...cola or pepsi). There's something about the combination of ice, sugar and caffeine that I find very stimulating.
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I drink in thr absence of anything else.that helps me cope with my emotions or.my issues. I've gone through phases of drinking way too much. One of them was really bad where I'd binge drink every weekend and had a drink every evening. Just something to take the edge off.
That has been my pattern of drinking for the past fifteen years or so. And actually that's what's worrying me. More and more I have nights out of which I don't know all the details anymore. It's not that I drink even more than I'm used to, but apparently alcohol is starting to alter my brain, so I will have more and more memory loss.

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I used to need alcohol at social events too. mainly the chit chatting kind where you don't do anything but talk. They bore the hell out of me so alcohol helps. Hugely. Without alcohol many of them were painfully boring.
This, plus some level of social anxiety that is reduced with alcohol.

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Then I started taking anti depressants and the cravings stopped. When ever I smoke I don't crave alcohol. When I was taking stimulants I didn't need alcohol at all.
Stimulants indeed make it easier to keep off alcohol. However, mostly they wear off half-way the evening, after which the binge drinking begins.

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For me it's mainly another form of self medication. Could it he something similar for you? A coping mechanism? Do the stimulants help you?

I've found that a decent substitute is actually coke (the drink...cola or pepsi). There's something about the combination of ice, sugar and caffeine that I find very stimulating.
There always are enough non-alcoholic beverages available, but somehow they never give me the same kick.
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Please remain on topic. Refer to Hermus' initial post. While some silliness can be fun it can also detract from a thread like this.
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Re: Drinking too much

If you're not drinking alcohol all the time now, there's really no treatment for you to go to. Alcohol detox treatment usually consists of you staying in some center or wing of a hospital and being given some benzodiazepam (usually Librium) until you get past the physical withdrawal phase, that lasts only a few days to a week. But if you just went to one party and drank and that made you crave alcohol, but you aren't acting on the cravings, there's nothing to do. You're already detoxed.

If you get into a program like an Alcoholics Anonymous one, they will insist you cease taking all psychoactive substances, including Adderall, etc. AA, which most alcohol and drug therapy is based on, is practically a religion demanding you don't take any type of psychotic drug whatsoever. From what I get from your post, that's not what you need, nor will it ever get rid of cravings. Nothing does that, with the possible exception of Ibogaine, but that is an experimental drug and illegal in most countries.
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Re: Drinking too much

Alcohol can help reduce boredom, and in moderation and in those people who aren't addicts can be a huge temporary assistance to times of stress.

Are you needing the alcohol in order to feel social, to feel accepted or to feel like you belong? Are you craving the booze to cope with boredom, and that is the first thing you reach for?

I have also drank heavily in my past, and my tolerance is so naturally high, it is ridiculous. This leads me to think perhaps I am pre-disposed to alcoholism, although I have no issues stopping drinking, or having only a few.

If you are blacking out and not remembering things, these are warning signs. I don't think making light of alcohol abuse helps anyone. Not remembering things is not normal, and is a sign you are drinking too much, period.

Just my two (or three) cents. I feel you should find some other outlet for your boredom.
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If you're not drinking alcohol all the time now, there's really no treatment for you to go to. Alcohol detox treatment usually consists of you staying in some center or wing of a hospital and being given some benzodiazepam (usually Librium) until you get past the physical withdrawal phase, that lasts only a few days to a week. But if you just went to one party and drank and that made you crave alcohol, but you aren't acting on the cravings, there's nothing to do. You're already detoxed.

If you get into a program like an Alcoholics Anonymous one, they will insist you cease taking all psychoactive substances, including Adderall, etc. AA, which most alcohol and drug therapy is based on, is practically a religion demanding you don't take any type of psychotic drug whatsoever. From what I get from your post, that's not what you need, nor will it ever get rid of cravings. Nothing does that, with the possible exception of Ibogaine, but that is an experimental drug and illegal in most countries.
Detox actually is not really something I need, no. Physically I think I'm not addicted. I stopped drinking for a while and haven't drunk for four days now. The only problem I'm encountering now is with impaired sleep.

AA? No thanks. They ask you to accept a higher power, something which is just not for me. Moreover, as you say they want you to quit stimulants, which are necessary for people with ADD to function. Using medication would be too heavy.

The real problem is that I can to a certain extent decide not to drink for a period. However, when I start again I'll soon be back at binge drinking multiple times a week. Something that is costing me my health and might be doing serious damage to my brains (blackouts, memory loss etc.).
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