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The "R-Word"?

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Reason for editing: Replace "r-word" (which many people consider offensive) with "ridiculous".
What is the r-word? I need to become better in psychatrists-english not to be understood offensive.
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Re: WTH is happening?

This question comes up frequently, and there may be others reading who are unfamiliar with the language issues, so I'll explain here.

"Retarded" is the "r-word" I removed from the post.

The term "mentally retarded" was once standard clinical terminology. It could be used in polite American English by doctors, parents, and teachers to describe the diagnosis of people with measured low IQ (usually <70) or other severe developmental delays that typically caused serious impairments in communication, self-care, and other functional abilities.

"Retarded" (adjective), or worse, "retard" (noun as epithet) soon became used as a slur in schoolyards, and spread from there. It was -- and sometimes still is -- used as a direct insult to people with the clinical diagnosis, as well as to people with other learning or behavior problems and/or to people who received special educational services in school -- including some members of this forum.

This "r-word" has been, and still is, also used pejoratively to describe a number of other people or situations (as in your post). It may be intended as a direct insult to the people/situations so labeled, but it is also perceived as an insult by people with intellectual disabilities, who are tarred by association with the actual targets of the insults (with whom they may have very little in common and of whose behavior they themselves may not approve!).

Because of its frequent use over many years as a hurtful insult, the word "retarded" is now considered highly offensive by a large segment of the population. Some advocates, including people who had been labeled (or mocked as) "retarded", see it as a word associated with such disrespect and dehumanization that it has no business being uttered under any circumstances.*

A more current clinical/diagnostic label for what was formerly called "mental retardation" is "intellectual disability" (per DSM-5, following the lead of other organizations). In some cases, "developmental disability/delay" may also be used, though this latter term is broader and may include other conditions that don't, by definition, imply limited intellectual abilities, including ADHD and autism).

The accepted terminology is likely to change again in the future with shifts in social and scientific understanding of the underlying conditions that cause "intellectual disability".

On the forum, when describing a situation or behavior, try substituting "frustrating", "nonsensical", "ridiculous", "exasperating", or some other word. When describing people, keep in mind that insulting other forum members isn't allowed. For others, like particularly intransigent doctors who should know better, there's "ignorant", "bone-headed", "incompetent", "asinine", "stupid", and other possibilities as your thesaurus or creativity allow.

But please avoid using the "r-word". For similar reasons, please also avoid using other clinical/medical terminology as a casual insult or informal descriptor (e.g. "psychotic", "bipolar", "schizophrenic").

Please let me or any other moderator know if you have questions about this.

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* See, for example, the "Spread the Word to End the Word" campaign, which highlights the stories of people who have been hurt by this word and its associations, and who advocate that the "r-word" should be relegated to the dustbin of history.

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Re: WTH is happening?

It was not my post but I asked for the word.

In many european languages "retarded" means "slow release" and it is printed on many meds.

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Re: The "R-Word"?

Yes, there is also a slow-release preparation of methylphenidate called "Medikinet retard", and we are aware that the word does not have the same negative connotations or associations in other languages.

The root word is the same, meaning "slow" or "slowed", and that is why it was originally applied to people believed to be "delayed" or "slow" in development.

Today, when used in English to describe a person or situation, the word can be very hurtful because of the way its use changed over time from a diagnostic term to an insult. Thus, we request that you not use it in that way.
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Re: The "R-Word"?

Can countries be "retarded" in treating of ADHD or technology standards?
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Re: The "R-Word"?

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Can countries be "retarded" in treating of ADHD or technology standards?
Nah, most likely ignorant or controlling.
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Re: The "R-Word"?

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Can countries be "retarded" in treating of ADHD or technology standards?
For what I think you mean (at least for ADHD treatment), Missy's suggestion of "ignorant" is good.

You could also say something like "uninformed" or "lagging" or "behind the times" / "behind the curve" or "not up to speed" / "not up to par" . All of these phrases would indicate that the country was not yet meeting some more advanced standard of knowledge/practice.

In current English, I can think of only a few instances where "retard*" is used in a way that isn't likely to offend, and they are usually technical: for chemical substances like "flame retardants" (coatings or foams used to reduce the spread of fire) or for mechanical equipment like "hydraulic/electric retarders" (systems for truck braking). It's also used in music (directly from Romance languages) to mean "slow down the tempo". In general, applying "retard*" in English to people or to human actions/policies/etc. would be considered rude.
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Re: The "R-Word"?

I know that years ago I would use the r word casually. "The man was r*****!"
I have since learned how offensive that word is, even though I meant to slight to the disabled community.
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Re: The "R-Word"?

Great explanations. It is a shame some people think about others disorders to be r***%***ed.

I see everyone with a disorder as a special being with special abilities maybe similar like the "mutants from X-men movies" but some might not have found their ablities.

I like to read about or listen to their emotions, views or ideas although it is a heavy load to have.


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Very good point....��
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Rrrrrrrrrrrespect
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Re: The "R-Word"?

Linguistically its all fascinating, i took a class in the history of the english language.
infrench " retard" is literally a delay and to be late is " en retard", and these cant really be transformed into an insult, they are every day basic words.
an insult is " attardé" .
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Re: The "R-Word"?

I used it with profoundly mentally ******** in the context of microcephaly (in this case caused by the Zika virus). A Supermod changed the wording and I didn't mind if that is the site rules and didn't say anything, but the word is a valid medical word, especially in such a context where a person is basically a "vegetable" which is not a very kind word either.
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Re: The "R-Word"?

I never quite understood the issue with that word as it is describing something but since it is offensive we now call that something something else. At work I deal with tubing, much of it is flame retardant. So how that is okay and saying someone is the word that shall not be mentioned is not just escapes me. Kinda like how we are not really supposed to say black but african american, thing is most times that person is not born in Africa. I don't go around calling myself Irish American I say I am white or an American. It just does not make any sense to me, why not just call an apple an apple.
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Yes, there is also a slow-release preparation of methylphenidate called "Medikinet retard", and we are aware that the word does not have the same negative connotations or associations in other languages.

The root word is the same, meaning "slow" or "slowed", and that is why it was originally applied to people believed to be "delayed" or "slow" in development.

Today, when used in English to describe a person or situation, the word can be very hurtful because of the way its use changed over time from a diagnostic term to an insult. Thus, we request that you not use it in that way.
Is it still insulting to someone who is so "disabled" or whatever you want to call it that they can not understand any spoken, written or signed language?
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