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Old 10-01-16, 06:05 PM
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Is quoting people accurately part of ADDForum guidelines?

I was wondering if quoting what people say and write accurately, is already part of the ADDForum guidelines?

If not, could we add quoting accurately in general, to the ADDForum guidelines?

It is really easy to quote accurately, just quote exactly the terms the person actually writes and/or says.

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Re: Is quoting people accurately part of ADDForum guidelines?

No, it is not part of the formal guidelines.

When you quote someone, it is, however, good form to quote them accurately. If you alter the quote in any way -- leaving out parts that aren't relevant to the discussion, etc. -- it's good form to indicate this by using conventional symbols (like [...] or ...).

If you feel that your words (or someone else's) have been misquoted or misunderstood, you are welcome to correct the record.

That said, there are valid ways to discuss what someone has said/written that don't involve direct quotes. In these cases, it is not necessary to use (or repeat) a person's exact words. It is even desirable in many cases to discuss things without simply quoting other people verbatim.

Again, even if you're not quoting a person exactly, it's a good idea to try to represent what the person has said accurately if you want to have a good discussion.

But there is often some room for interpretation -- two people may read the same direct quote and come away with different understandings of what the person means, and I think this is frequently where disagreements and debates arise.

Sometimes re-reading a direct quote can help if there has been an actual misreading. Other times, the words are simply ambiguous or may leave people with different impressions about their meaning, or the words may be contradictory, and this can be the basis for a good discussion.

As long as members are discussing issues in good faith and are not intentionally mischaracterizing people's words or engaging in other disrespectful behaviors, members can continue to have fruitful discussions.

Here are some of the relevant guidelines we do have, from the Forum Etiquette section:
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*Please be respectful to one another. People come from all different backgrounds and many have different ideas and views on different issues.
*Treat your fellow members with courtesy (especially if you disagree with them).
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* Avoid direct insults to any member of the forums. Everyone should be treated with the same degree of respect. The goal should be to give constructive criticism with source documentation given where possible to back up your opinions while using common sense, respect, and courtesy. Treat others as you would like to be treated.
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Re: Is quoting people accurately part of ADDForum guidelines?

Is criticism without "source documentation given" constructive?


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Re: Is quoting people accurately part of ADDForum guidelines?

It depends on the situation -- there are no hard-and-fast rules about when source documentation is required, and some threads call for more opinion-based responses.

In the Scientific Discussions section, we do specifically request that participants support their arguments with relevant sources.

In other sections, referring to source documentation is often useful or appropriate.

When challenging questionable assumptions or correcting misinformation, for example, it can help to link to a source or source(s) for additional (or correct) information.

It can also be constructive to point out conflicting information or ambiguity within a single source or across multiple sources.

For purposes of ADDF guidelines, I think the reason for this line...
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* Avoid direct insults to any member of the forums. Everyone should be treated with the same degree of respect. The goal should be to give constructive criticism with source documentation given where possible to back up your opinions while using common sense, respect, and courtesy. Treat others as you would like to be treated.
...is to make it clear that saying things like, "So-and-so, you're an idiot who should be banned from the forum for stupidity!" is unacceptable,
while saying something like, "So-and-so, I don't think that's true (because of [reason(s) with source(s)])" is welcomed.
We understand that there are various reasons why source documentation is not always possible or even necessarily appropriate, but regardless of the situation, members should treat each other with respect.

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