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Old 11-17-16, 03:02 PM
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I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

My free speech demons want to express themselves, sometimes I want to be more 'colourful', sometimes I want to post semi-questionable material.

So what happens, is I post something like a 'Kevin Spencer' cartoon, and it gets deleted as fast as it is posted, and I feel like a sack of stinky stuff because I broke the fragile TOS of this site. And I feel like I butt-hurt someones wittle fee-wings.

I want to talk about drugs, I would like to use a swear word sometimes, but
I feel impulsive, I feel mod spanked, I feel like I want to leave this site.


Is there nothing that can be done so that adults can share adult stuff with adults?

It just seems like I come here at my most dire time of need, I express myself over-abundantly, and I get warnings, deletions, etc.
And this is the only forum where I run into these problems.

I just had to rant.
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Old 11-17-16, 03:41 PM
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

I understand that there are parents here that are concerned about their kids and that they want a safe PC place to glean info on the subject.

But, I don't have kids, I don't care about other peoples kids, I don't want to talk to other people about their kids. And I am not PC.

I am interested in adult ADD and I really hate to have to censor myself, I want to talk to ADULTS in a fun, less restrictive manner, instead of being made to feel like 'I' am a caged kid who needs to be restricted and punished because I said the wrong thing.

Does ANYBODY understand where i am coming from?
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

Yes I do understand. I think the guidelines might be a legal necessity as if the site doesn't follow or doesnt have them they have to restrict membership to over 18 or something like that, which would mean that our younger members could not be here. I could be wrong but I know that was the case for another forum.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

I hear you!!!

I just want to express in plain English my real pain and angst that ADHD has had on my life as a Christian when discussing all of my issues and all that it entails but that is verboten. One can't even make a reference to it in passing.

Anyone with ADHD is knows that they are not a special snowflake and we live our lives hoping that those around us are tolerant and diverse enough to accept our non-NT ways so we can all just co-exist peacefully but with this particular subject on this forum, the practice of tolerance and diversity isn't even given opportunity to exist.

It is insulting to think that after all that we put up with in many areas of our lives such as employment bias, bullying, relationship issues, academic failure, just to name a few, and are experts in navigating through things that we don't understand and don't agree with with, that we aren't trusted enough to be able to handle people expressing their Christianity in one of the regular forums not just the non-forum forum of Meditation and Spirituality.

This is a freedom from religion forum not a freedom of religion forum.

I said it before and I'll say it again: It is the biggest weakness of this forum.

There was talk of a forum upgrade awhile back and I suggested new subforums on Christian denominations and other religions.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

A quick note from your friendly moderating team: We do the best we can to keep our younger members safe and some topics have in the past caused people to cross the "etiquette" guidelines, which is why we sometimes have to say enough's enough on particular topics. We are doing our best to keep this forum friendly and welcoming and sometimes it means we have to "censor" topics in order to avoid flame wars.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

An age restricted area maybe?

Anyway, it just seems stupid, any kid, any time can access porn, drug info, violence on the net.
Why do we have to pretend we are protecting people from reality?
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

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An age restricted area maybe?

Anyway, it just seems stupid, any kid, any time can access porn, drug info, violence on the net.
Why do we have to pretend we are protecting people from reality?
Speaking as a ADDF moderator again:

We can only moderate this forum, it's up to the parents to have parental blocks on the computer to protect their kids from stuff they see outside of this forum, all we can do is protect vulnerable members on this forum by "censoring" some topics. In an ideal world, this would not be needed but as I think you and everyone here can appreciate, this world is not perfect.

I hope you can understand our position (as moderators)

There is a debates section already, which can be used to discuss some topics that are technically against guidelines (like religion and politics) but even then the conversation must be kept civil so as not to cross the etiquette guidelines If you would like access to the private debates section, please PM a super moderator for the password.

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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

What I do understand is that I don't understand.

If your damn is overflowing, a bit off duct tape on the pin hole ain't gonna make a bit of difference.

And midnightstar, I really do understand, but I do not understand why I need to understand it.

The act of censorship just makes things more taboo, like tell a kid not to say the F- word, well, you just gave that word real power, just by forbidding it. Next thing you know every second word is F this, F that.

(Some things need to be censored though)

Who are we protecting, and from what?

I could post a violent video and it stays, post a video with swear words in it, it gets deleted.
I don't see uncouth words ruin people lives.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

My 'damn' is overflowiing,
dammit!

My Damn certainly is over the top.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

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What I do understand is that I don't understand.

If your damn is overflowing, a bit off duct tape on the pin hole ain't gonna make a bit of difference.

And midnightstar, I really do understand, but I do not understand why I need to understand it.

The act of censorship just makes things more taboo, like tell a kid not to say the F- word, well, you just gave that word real power, just by forbidding it. Next thing you know every second word is F this, F that.

(Some things need to be censored though)

Who are we protecting, and from what?

I could post a violent video and it stays, post a video with swear words in it, it gets deleted.
I don't see uncouth words ruin people lives.
Midnightstar has been trying to tell you numerously AND nicely that what you want to do here is a no can do.
Normally I really don't care but you're beginning to become snottily vicious, so perhaps Blue Light would be a better spot to post your invective.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

I am merely questioning the rules, in the hope that suggestions can be hashed out to maybe accomodate others who think as I do.

I am not being snotty, but you are being so to me.

I am merely ranting, and I didn't comprehend midnightstars post the first time, so yeah, I did not get it the first time.

But that doesn't mean I should go and lie down.

Perhaps you should go back and comprehend what I wrote so you can better understand what i am talking about, instead of attacking me personally.

I am not conducting ad hominem attacks here, I am just making commentary about the rules, despite what midnightstar said, I still have my opinions, and I have a right to express them.

If you don't like it, you can read other posts and ignore this one.
This post DOES NOT break any TOS rules (I think).

And yes, I am a member of bluelight.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

moderator note:

the suggestion has been forwarded to admin.

don't attack each other in this thread or i or another moderator will be forced to close it.

for reference, you can peruse our etiquette guidelines: http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15843
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

Goodness, I believe all of that hateful shoveling pushed me right over. I'm gulping a big black joe and feel much better now.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

I get angry too, I get angry over a world with too many rules, a barrier to free expression.

I am considering shopping for a less restrictive ADD forum, because, even though I am a really nice person, I like to rant about things and question everything, some people have an issue with that, and then they paint me as an idiot that doesn't get it.

Oh I get it all right.

With too many rules it's less fun, more clinical and sanitized, and I feel like I am walking on eggshells.

I slip up too, I write things that I later regret. I fear I am going to get banned from here, simply because I get controversial and work myself up into a lather.

I also enjoy arguing my point, I like to debate.

I did nothing wrong here, just something I have juggled around in my head while my posts and links get deleted and I get warnings for stuff I wish to share with adults with an open mind.

I am in the wrong forum.
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Re: I find this forum to Restrictive sometimes.

FogNoggin, I'm sorry you're feeling personally squelched. You're certainly not the first or only person to find the forum too restrictive in some ways, and I can appreciate your desire to more freely express yourself. (There have been times where I myself have felt this way.)

Yes, in an ideal world, differences of opinion would be handled gracefully, and people would both own their sensitivities and -- critically -- also respect the sensitivities of others.

But this is...

a) an internet forum

b) for people with ADHD and related conditions (for many of whom impulsivity, poor emotional regulation, and interpersonal skills are ongoing problems, and many of whom have histories of abuse or discrimination)

c) from a wide variety of cultural, political, and spiritual backgrounds

...and history has indicated that things haven't always worked out in that "ideal" way.

So, yes, a desire to keep the forum "clean" for our members of all ages is part of it.

A desire to avoid the promotion of overtly illegal activities on the site is part of it.

But it's largely an actual history of cross-forum fights and harassment (sexual and otherwise) -- which are not conducive to seeking or providing support -- that has led to the restrictions currently in place.

Will this always be the way? I don't know; not necessarily.

I will say that you're probably not helping your case here by complaining about not being able to post crude videos in respose to an OP by a 13-year-old...

I have alerted our site administrators, Andi and Andrew, to the existence of the thread. The site guidelines, and presence/creation of subforums, are in Admin's domain, and nothing the moderators can change. They will review the requests and make a decision.

Meanwhile, I'm closing the thread.
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