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Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

I really think this is an ADHD related issue or just indicative of struggling with ADHD or a learning disability. The way I look at preservation is a sort of "over-focus" almost OCD like.

In my case, it'd be struggling to double check my answers or work. Before I got my ADHD under control, I'd make so many stupid mistakes, I'd forget things, leave questions blank, forget assignments, forget to write my name, you name it. So when I got my work back or it came time for a responsibility, I'd end up getting bad marks and berated. This made me more determined to deal with my struggles, I'd try double checking if I remembered, and if I did I'd make just as many mistakes no matter how I tried. This led me to try triple checking when I remembered, and most of the time I'd forget, and that caused me to try obsess more and more to avoid or deal with my struggles of undiagnosed ADHD.

Essentially this snowballed pretty hard, and I'd be an ADHD hypervigilant mess missing a ton of steps and things I needed to do, and just trying to compensate more and more for it with what became perseveration. Even at times now that I have my ADHD under control and am medicated (more so early on, not at all now), I am just very hypervigilant over the ways I used to struggle with ADHD. This is the perseveration I'm referring to.

Is this common? Do you have it?
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Re: Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

Using a proof reader helps greatly.
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Re: Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

Do you mean like, self preservation? Sort of like doing something to keep yourself afloat? Sort of like triple checking your work, or being hypervigilant to avoid any sort of mistakes or failure?
If thats what you mean then I think I have gone through something kinda like that but not with school work or employment work. I have a sleep routine and morning routine that I adhere to because it saved my life when it comes to insomina and all that. Because of that I can be very rigid with when I go to bed/wake up and sometimes I am so focused on avoiding a return to insomnia that I am thinking/planning out all available options in order to give myself security because of how horrible it was. Does that make any sense?
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Re: Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

Yes, I'm more hyperviligant now with planning things, figuring out how long it will take to get somewhere, to be ready on time, to make a meal etc. (actually I'm not diagnosed though, but it's something I've worked on mostly because I was just miserable, rushing around. Sometimes I still underestimate, though.

It'll be worth the diagonosis i hope to get , if it helps at all with the proofreading.
I have exactly this same problem:
"double checking if I remembered, and if I did I'd make just as many mistakes no matter how I tried. This led me to try triple checking when I remembered, and most of the time I'd forget"
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Re: Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

proof reading...well, I am diagnosed, I do take my medication as directed but surely you have all seen my mistakes.

I read and do everything too fast. In college it was fine because I had a proof reader.

I won't even push a button to correct things.

But at LOL's, I am a perfectionist that the family and LOL can count on.
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well, except for a couple of times the proof reader corrected some things incorrectly and it was very annoying.
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Re: Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

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Do you mean like, self preservation? Sort of like doing something to keep yourself afloat? Sort of like triple checking your work, or being hypervigilant to avoid any sort of mistakes or failure?
If thats what you mean then I think I have gone through something kinda like that but not with school work or employment work. I have a sleep routine and morning routine that I adhere to because it saved my life when it comes to insomina and all that. Because of that I can be very rigid with when I go to bed/wake up and sometimes I am so focused on avoiding a return to insomnia that I am thinking/planning out all available options in order to give myself security because of how horrible it was. Does that make any sense?
Perservation = keeping something in good condition.

Perseveration = repeating something.

I didn't know the difference between these until learning about autism.
Perseveration is a symptom of autism, including echolalia, repeating phrases
or words.

I think the OP was discussing being unable to break a pattern he developed
as a coping mechanism.
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Re: Perseveration and ADHD. Do you have this issue?

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Perservation = keeping something in good condition.

Perseveration = repeating something.

I didn't know the difference between these until learning about autism.
Perseveration is a symptom of autism, including echolalia, repeating phrases
or words.

I think the OP was discussing being unable to break a pattern he developed
as a coping mechanism.
This, i thought that it was like perservation too. Though from what I understand it's applicable to adhd, and other conditions and is used interchangeably w/ hypervigilance.
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This, i thought that it was like perservation too. Though from what I understand it's applicable to adhd, and other conditions and is used interchangeably w/ hypervigilance.
Hypervigilance is generally caused by PTSD and anxiety disorder.
Both of which, I have.

It's better now, but I went through a time while married that I nearly jumped
out of my skin if someone entered the room while I was focused on something.
Hubbs finally figured out he needed to make some noise before surprising me.
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Hypervigilance is generally caused by PTSD and anxiety disorder.
Both of which, I have.

It's better now, but I went through a time while married that I nearly jumped
out of my skin if someone entered the room while I was focused on something.
Hubbs finally figured out he needed to make some noise before surprising me.
That's true but in my case in particular there's definitely an association between it and ADHD. In my case before I got my ADHD under control I got so burned out from trying to be hypervigilant about dealing with my struggles due to
ADHD. It was a cluster****. Also created a lot of anxiety and OCD style symptoms that I had to overcome that were really hard to. Ocd symptoms mixed
With ADHD is such an infuriating combo because OCD can make your mind stick on the dumbest things, meanwhile having the attention span of a gnat about anything (that was me)

That's not fun at all about ptsd. I'm glad things are getting better for you. I had/still have some residual ptsd. A lot of it comes from the 20 years before my ADHD was diagnosed and how I was treated. Rest comes from how badly I was treated in medical school for having ADHD that brought everything back ridiculously hard.

I hate hate hate that jumping out of my skin feeling.
I'm so glad I don't have that anymore. At its worst that feeling gave me the feeling that I was in the middle of a war zone and constantly being beaten on. That was the reality minus the war zone but when I developed ptsd it really felt
Like something snapped in me. I also hated how it brought out paranoia at times. Ptsd related paranoia is so horrific
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Perservation = keeping something in good condition.

Perseveration = repeating something.
Perservation? Shouldn't it be preservation? To preserve or keep something in good condition.

No sure if the e & r were transposed accidentally or I've never heard of the word.
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Perservation? Shouldn't it be preservation? To preserve or keep something in good condition.

No sure if the e & r were transposed accidentally or I've never heard of the word.
It's "perseveration" -- like "persevere", but used this way (verb = "perseverate"), it usually means beyond the point of (f)utility, more of a "getting stuck".

EDIT: Oops -- looks like you meant the first word you quoted. Yeah, that's a typo -- should be "preservation". My bad!

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Perservation? Shouldn't it be preservation? To preserve or keep something in good condition.

No sure if the e & r were transposed accidentally or I've never heard of the word.
Pre- is the most common spelling, but apparently it's also accepted to spell it
perservation.
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Perservation = keeping something in good condition.

Perseveration = repeating something.

I didn't know the difference between these until learning about autism.
Perseveration is a symptom of autism, including echolalia, repeating phrases
or words.

I think the OP was discussing being unable to break a pattern he developed
as a coping mechanism.
I cant believe I missed the spelling. I know what peserveration is. I read it has preservation. DUH.
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Yes of course, doesn't everybody with ADHD have this symptom?lol
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