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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

This is a useful list. I believe it is worth noting that some of the conditions could also be caused from ADD/ADHD.
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This is a useful list. I believe it is worth noting that some of the conditions could also be caused from ADD/ADHD.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Add on #39: Traumatic experiences may cause emotional problems for a long time. (Alcohol in family, sexual abuse. etc.)
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

weee, oh boy! I could relate to some of the symptoms and still have ADD too.........
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Lists like this tend to make me feel paranoid.

Don't get me wrong: I think it's useful and I appreciate the work that went into the original post; I don't mean to sound as though I am complaining.

My concern is that some of these may apply to me, but I'm fairly confident that my physician also thinks that I am a hypochondriac as it is. The truth is that I simply like to 'rule things out,' especially since I have had several health problems throughout my lifetime...

I have wondered about having some sort of thyroid-related testing done, though!
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

WOW. Thanks for the info. I never knew spinal issues could cause this... Although it makes sense. I had two burst discs that were fused in 1997. I have been in Chronic pain ever since. Nor did I know seizures could do this. I had more seizure than I can remember after a bought of encephalitis which...also the caused lots of memory issues and neurological problems, some that never got better. I could go on... My medical background is so convoluted, i'm not sure what I really have anymore. Thanks for the info though. It helps to know what can be causing some of the things I am experiencing.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Yeah, this list... I understand the point, but I think things like this can make people think that a diagnosis or the possibility of ADHD as the last hypothetical possibility. I dunno, I went the whole naturopathic route for years- thyroid stuff, food allergy, chiropractic, chemical sensitivity, etc. All it left me was far poorer with just as many issues.

Not saying you can't have these other problems, I just know countless people who have tried all of these alternative therapies/ alternative diagnoses with little in the way of results.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Wait then does this mean one might NOT have ADD/ADHD and it can be from these abnormalities instead?
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Wait then does this mean one might NOT have ADD/ADHD and it can be from these abnormalities instead?
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Hey everyone, I thought I'd drop some knowledge on you guys since most of your information comes from wikipedia or other rather skewed information. Just for clarification I'm a 3rd year medical student so I don't know all that much, but I definitely know enough to say certain DDx are pretty much bs.

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!1.)Hypoglycemia No this is just dumb. No physician would confuse the two. You'd have other signs such as being so hypoglycemic that you have seizures/passing out/etc.
2.(! 2.)Allergies: I'm not sure who the heck thought of this unless they just wanted their "vindicated" pneumonic for random things it's not. Again on PE you'd see rhinitis and what not.

3.(!3.)Learning disabilities: ADHD is a learning disability so this is poor classification.

4.(!4.)Hyper or hypothyroidism:hypothyroidism you'd be retarded, low reflexes, and pretibial myxedema so no. Hyper could look pretty similar, but you'd have tachycardia, sweating, extreme heat intolerance and myxedema all over.

5.(! 5.) Hearing and vision problems: What? This is ridiculous.

6.(!6.)Mild to high lead levels, Yeah, this happens in 3rd world countries or places with lead paint which was stopped in the 70's, but there's be more stuff presenting than ADHD stuff. It's more fatigue due to Pb poisoning hemoglobin (ferrochelatase fyi).

7.(*1.)Spinal Problems: Uhh.... this is so vague since spinal problems can encompass anything, and I'd have absolutely no idea what would present such as this. Maybe something like guillian-barre in EXTREME circumstances, but then again, that's just a no.

8.(*2.) Toxin exposures: No, toxin is a short term thing except for the more fat solubile ones which will be stored in fat and would be released when kid is fasting.

9.(*3.)Carbon Monoxide poisoning: You get sleep, and barf. This is acute and lasts a day or so. No

10.(*4.)Seizure disorders: You'd be pretty stupid as a physician to mix up the two. You'd get an EEG done to rule out absent seizures. Plus when you're absent, you don't remember even zoning out.

11.(*5.)Metabolic disorders: No. Although there's a ton of metabolic disorders, most of them that could present somewhat like ADHD would also generally have gross motor retardation such as severe muscle cramps anytime they run (McArdle's dz) or profound retardation and dead like metachromic leukodystrophy

12. (*6.)Genetic defects: This is a definite yes, but there's a ton to worry about. Generally you would see other stuff first instead of just inattention.
13.(*7.) Sleeping disorders Yeah and you'd hear/feel yourself choking at night. Sleep apnea. Generally in the old foggies or you'll notice it very early as a child.

14.(*8.)Post-traumatic subclinical seizure disorder: Again no.
15.(*9.)High mercury levels: I don't remember much about this one

16.(*10.)High manganese levels I don't know anything about this either

17.(*11.)Iron deficiency: No, a normal CBC will rule this out.

18.(*12.) B vitamin deficiencies:B6 makes GABA which is an inhibitory neural transmitter and you'd see stuff like tremors or other weird movements. B12 you'd see motor and sensation sort of tossed.


19.(*13.)Excessive amounts of Vitamins: This is so vague. Just don't take too many vitamins. Watch out for Vit E with any blood thinners (you'll bleed out).

20.(*14.)Tourette's syndrome: This one everyone thinks of coprolalia which isn't very common (10%) or so of tourette's. Think of OCD with tourette's more or less. You'd want to do something because it lowers your anxiety.

21.(*15.)Sensory Integration Dysfunction: What the heck is this?

22.(**1.)Early-onset diabetes: Again this is pretty dumb.

23.(**2.)Heart disease: I'd agree with this, but it's more in people who are either black and above 50 years old or for everyone else above 60 unless you have familial hypercholestrolemia/trglyceridemia/lipidemia.

24.(**3.)Cardiac conditions: It can reduce the supply of blood, oxygen and nutrients to the brain.


25.(**4.) Early-Onset Bi-Polar disorder:Also know as child-like Bi-polar. The experts state that 85% of children with child-like Bi-polar also meet the criteria for ADHD. The symptoms are extremely close. Most people when they think of Bi-polar disorder, think of Adult like Bipolar which mood swings happen over a somewhat long period of time. In child-like Bipolar, the mood swings can happen many times within a twenty-four hour day, known as rapid cycling. At one moment they're calm and the next minute they could be in a full fledge temper tantrum. Some of the symptoms are Distractibility, Hyperactivity, impulsivity, separation anxiety, restlessness, depressed mood, low self-esteem, and many more. Early-Onset Bi-polar should be ruled out before ADHD is considered mainly because they are treated with different medications if you choose medications that is. ADHD is treated with stimulant medications which will make a Bipolar child worse possibly psychotic.


26.(***1.)CAPD(Central Auditory processing Disorder) will sometimes occur in children who have had a history of ear infections and/or PE tubes. Symptoms include distractibility, inability to follow a set of verbal instructions, "space out", etc.

27.(***2.)Worms: Such as Pinworms lay their eggs in the anal area, causing tickling and itching, which are most bothersome at night. The lack of sleep from this type of infestation can cause crankiness or bad behavior during the day. When asleep, nightmares may be present. This problem is mostly found in very young children preschool to kindergarten because of primitive toileting skills, they tend to put their fingers in their mouths, and they participate in a lot of hands-on activities with other kids and with pets. Roundworms, hookworms, and tapeworms are other examples that can make a child display ADHD like symptoms. Worms cause hyperactive behavior, learning problems, depression, or attention deficits by making children miserable on the inside.

28.(***3.)Viral or bacterial infections:When a child is affected by an infection that might cause problem behavior.

29.(***4.)Malnutrition or improper diet: Many children in the United States do not eat a well balanced diet. A proper diet is necessary to growing children. An improper diet can affect a child's behavior in an ill way.


Oh crap I'm getting too lazy to finish the rest.
I'm sure this is apparent since I'm on this forum, but I have it too and it's pretty easy to recognize ADHD from the rest. Your physician will know.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Intresting? I display half of the list.... im hypothyriod (since 1996) I did hade difulcultiesb learning in school in school didn't get it repeated 4th grade humiliation and bullied by many. I was animic many times... iron deficiencyb and B vitamin definciency had really bad allergies too.. have a hard time learning and reading and understanding. Would need to read twice to get it. I go from one extreame to to another bipolar? But was told I'm not by 4 pychiatrist well its almost half of the list forgtot what was the rest.... so I have all that? Well I do know I tried treatment for all that but guess what I have ADD AND I m only taking that one and THE ONLY TREATMENT I NEEDED TO GET RID OF ALL THAT other CRAP THAT EVERY DANG DR. SAID I HAD with no change... now all that other stuff on the list was part of my uncificiant little brain could produce.... I feel better and all that what I was diagnose is GoNE!
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Is it just me or does anyone else think that ADHD is really just a descriptor for the symptoms of 100s of biological "abonormalities".

When one is diagnosed and treated for ADHD they are really just treating the symptoms and not the actual cause.

If everyones ADHD symptoms were caused by the same condition then we could all be treated by the same medication.(obviously thats just not the case)

Hypothetically if everyones ADHD could be pinpointed to the individual causes and the medications were available we could all be cured of our symptoms..

PS. Id like to add narcolepsy to the list.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

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Well, I suppose that would depend on how similar something has to be for you to consider it similar. Here's a post I made on the topic in another thread:

http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...9&postcount=53

I don't agree that these symptoms are similar to ADHD.


Any sources for this?

The comment on the list you posted, particularly in context with many of the other comments, sounds like a chiropractic quack statement, but if we're talking about specific things like your example, I'd be interested in looking at it. My mother-in-law and a close friend have both disk problems and depression, and I'd like to see how they might be related.
Thanks for the posting Speedo. Looking over the list, my first response was, hummm, that's interesting.

Then I found myself refuting or limiting each condition, line by line. Then I tried to identify the underlying flaw in the list.

Carla is spot on.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Phew! glad i found this, so i don't have ADHD afterall, just a bunch of other nasty life threatining stuff.
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30.(***5.)Head injuries:Such as the postconcussion syndrome. Some of the symptoms include Irritability, emotionality, memory problems, depression, and sleep disturbances. A concussion can disrupt brain functioning causing ADHD like symptoms.

31.(***6.)Dietary Factors:(For example to much caffeine and sugar)At doses as low as 250 milligrams a day, a level many American children exceed- caffeine can cause rambling speech, attention and concentration problems, agitation, heart palpitations, insomnia, and hyperactive behavior. In a way, it is true we are what we eat.

32.(***7.) Some disorders such as anemias reduce oxygen to the brain causing disturbance in the brains chemistry causing ADHD like symptoms.


33.(***8.) Fetal alcohol syndrome(FAS) or Fetal alcohol effects (FAE): FAS is a name that doctors use to describe the damage done to children's brains and bodies when their mother drink heavily during pregnancy. It is the leading form of mental retardation today. Prenatal alcohol impairment, however, also comes in a milder form called fetal alcohol effects (FAE). Children with FAE often don't look disabled, and they tend to score in the low-normal or even normal range of intelligence. But these kids arent normal. Their mal-developed brains cause them to exhibit a wide range of behavior problems, including hyperactivity, attention problems, learning disorders, and ethical problems such as stealing, lying, and cheating.

34.(***9.)Intentionally or unintentionally sniffing materialssuch as modeling glue or other house hold products.
35.(***10.) Some drugs:, (both prescription and illegal) can cause the brain to atrophy, leading to disturbed cognition and behavior. If your child routinely takes prescription or over-the-counter medications for asthma, hay fever, allergies, headaches, or any other condition, consider the possibility that the drugs are causing or contributing to behavior problems.
36.(***11.):A beta-hemolytic streptococcus:(better known as "strep.") Although these bacteria are most commonly thought of as the cause of strep throat. Left untreated, strep can cause rheumatic fever and a movement disorder called Sydenham's chorea. Moreover, recurrent infections can lead, in susceptible children, to a group of symptoms collectively known as PANDAS (Pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders) Some symptoms of PANDAS include obsessive-compulsive behavior, Tourette's syndrome, hyperactivity, cognitive problems, and fidgeting.

37.(***12.)Lack of exercise:"Hyper Couch Potatoes" are children who aren't moving enough. Some children because of lack of exercise may seem as though they are always in motion, but often that motion is in fits and spurts: leaping up from a chair, spinning around in the lunch line, bouncing in a chair while watching TV. Quite a few hyperactive children actually do not get enough sustained, strenuous exercise to stay healthy mentally and physically. Exercise can make people happier, less anxious, less hyperactive, and less depressed. One reason is that exercise increases serotonin levels in the brain exactly what Prozac, Elavil, and similar drugs do.

38.(***13.) Gifted Children: Gifted children often display ADHD like symptoms because most of the time they are bored with what other kids their age are doing. Behaviors associated with Giftedness are poor attention, boredom, daydreaming, low tolerance for persistence on tasks that seem irrelevant, their judgment often lags behind their development of intellect, their intensity may lead to power struggles with authorities, and they may have a high activity level. They may need less sleep compared to other children, and they may question rules, customs, and traditions. If your child scores above average on IQ tests, aces exams, has no trouble with homework, has no apparent learning disabilities, and primarily exhibits his or her problems mostly at school, maybe seeking a more challenging class or school would help.

39.(***14.)Emotional problems: Kids who are experiencing emotional problems most often display ADHD like symptoms. For example, kids who are constantly subjected to bullying at school can display ADHD like symptoms. These are normal kids that act out because they are scared. They experience sleeping problems, sadness, and they develop physical symptoms, especially if they think those symptoms will keep them home from school. Often they can't concentrate in class, partly because they are worried and partly because they are suffering from sleep deprivation. Really any emotional problem at school or home in which a child is having trouble coping with can result in ADHD like symptoms.

40.(***15.)Some kids are spoiled and undisciplined: A number of children labeled hyperactive are merely under-disciplined children. They tend to run their household and get away with anything. Dr Syndey Walker stated this problem best of why parents under-discipline their children. He stated that he blamed not the parents but on the psychological experts who have counseled parents for several decades that children are fragile, easily traumatized little flowers who could be ruined for life by a cross look or a scolding which is very untrue. Children need firm discipline and strict rules not abuse but setting rules and standards and demanding those standards be met, and giving consequences when your rules are broken. Labeling undisciplined kids as ADHD who are not gives them an excuse for their misbehavior, which will often make it worse.
41.(***16.)Spirited children:When dealing with spirited children the problem usually does not lie with the child but with society's perception of what normal childhood behavior is. Many normal children, according to some people, display ADHD like symptoms not because they are hyperactive or lack sufficient attention spans but because the person forming the opinion has unrealistic standards of how a child should behave.

42.(***17.)Lack of understanding and communication skills: One of the main reasons why a child acts out and throws temper tantrums when they have a problem is because of their lack of understanding of a problem and lack of expressing how they feel. Children do not have the vocabulary or know how to express their emotions like adults do, that's why many act out when they are in a difficult situation. They are not able tell you something is wrong so they show you instead. This is one reason why any emotional or medical problem can cause acting out behavior in children.



43.(Rare 1.)Early stage brain tumors: Found rarely in children but should still be considered. Statistically, this diagnosis may not be important but to individual families, they assuredly are.

44. (Rare 2.)Brain cysts:Another rare cause of hyperactivity but should still be considered when searching for the reasons behind displayed ADHD like behavior.

45. (Rare 3.) Temporal lobe seizures: The Temporal lobe is a part of the brain. Any brain malfunction can cause inappropriate behavior. That's why conducting brain scans is a must when trying to figure out behavior problems.

46. (Rare 4.) Klinefelter syndrom: A Genetic disorder in which a male has an extra X chromosome (XXY). Many individuals experience learning, behavior, and social problems. A degree of subnormal intelligence appears in some affected individuals. Many affected individuals are skinny and taller than most of their peers. A simple blood test can rule this disorder out.

47.(Rare 5.) Genetic Disorder XYY: The extra Y chromosome has been associated with antisocial behavior.

48. (Rare 6.) Porphyria: A hereditary enzyme-deficiency disease. Enzymes are very important to our body's chemical reactions. Really nothing occurs in our body without enzymes. A lack of enzymes causes body malfunctioning which can cause ill behavior.

49. (Rare 7.) Candida Albicans infestation(Yeast Infection) : Candida infestations cause hyperactivity in children. Most children who do suffer from Candida infestations have some underlying problem frequently an immune disorder, or a disorder affecting carbohydrate metabolism and thus altering blood sugar levels. So immune disorders can cause other problems that also have the same symptoms of ADHD.

50. (Rare 8.) Intestinal parasites:Parasites rob the body of needed nutrients which in-turn affects behavior.
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