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Old 05-11-07, 03:14 AM
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Hello, I'm Tom from Belgium

Hi, my name is Tom, I'm 25 years old living in Belgium and I am ADD positive.

I recently found out I have ADD. I have a history of unfinished projects, books, college,...
I've been called lazy, dumb, unwilling and so many other things. After 10 years of visible ADD symptoms I started to place the negative symptoms as part of who I am, part of my personality or character.
I started to accept my faith of never being able to finish something with succes.

Until last week I searched help, my jaw dropped, my eyes opened up. Last week has been a rollercoaster of emotions and revelations to me. After years of accepting the fact that I'm not as smart as I thaught I was, I was tested on intelligence. I took different IQ-tests all having the same result, 130+ scores. Which led me to take Menza intake tests. I finished the test in half the prescribed time with a flawless result. I'm waiting for a full screening next month.

Right now I am a high intelligent being with brains wired differently. My self-esteem got an imense boost and I am generaly a happier person. The therapeutic value of the confirmation of my intelligence is of great importance to me. Especially since I'm taking bachlor (eventually master) evening courses to get the degree I always knew I should get, but never was able to get.

It's so nice to meet other people with similar problems.
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what's your Masters to be in? :-)
are you at one of those ever so pretty olde style Universities in Belgium - or maybe a racier new progressive place
... in the UK - it's mostly the modern, techno Unis which offer courses outside of the normal 3 years of 9am-5pm.
I took my Masters in computer science at night too :-) ... ... ... the closer to 9 or 10pm the closer I often came to coding Sandman.
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I'm studying at a college and it's not really a bachlor at the moment, it's something similar.
After which I have to take a year to fill in the gaps on general courses and get my official bachlor. Then it's of to uni to get my master in computer science. The only uni offering evening courses on a master level is in Brussels and it's the racier, techno type you describe
I'm taking computer science with a major in programming and would like to master in Artificial Intelligence since I'm very interested in anything concerning machine learning, cellular automata, genetics, genetic algorithms, neural networks, PSO, evolution, chaos ...
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Also forgive me for my poor English writing skills, since it is only my second or third language depending on the point of view.
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believe it or not - I pushed my Uni to offer that corse - and sure enough AI swept it - became their most popular subject to us nigh OWLs
(huh? I'm a clinical ontologist :-) ...

... yes ... I adore that aspect too.
Spent quite some time in clustering, classification and

... chaos


hmmm... and you mention AI and chaos

... hey ! you're me :-)

('cept I have no doubt that you're better)

(this morning I spent a little time with my copy of 'Genius' with my wife ...
the 'Feynmann story'

ooo... 'pretty pictures ...'
... my wife tells me to grow up ...
~ps~
she's a Frenchie ... et voila !

... welcome :-) (really)

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Do you perceive reality differently considering your education and background?

I took my first Ritalin today....All your ritalin belongs to me now! Give me more! My mind became an information blackhole! I was concentrated as stomach acid. Able to reason better and make connections I couldn't befor.

WAW! What a mindtripping experience!
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You were reading all of this !!!before!!! ritalin

Currently reading:

On Intelligence - Jeff Hawkins
Code Complete
2nd edition - Steve McConnell
Joel on Software - Joel Spolsky
ASP.NET 2.0 Unleashed - Stephen Walter
Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture - Martin Fowler


omg!

omg!

apart from ASP :-)
(have you read the sequel ....caged, locked and the key thrown away

(of course) - just a preemptive strike before the BSD boys kick in ...
(they're called HF and Speedo)

... anyhow ...
follow your brain - it'll tell you what you need to learn - and it'll stop you reading stuff which you don't aren't ain't interested in, despite thinking the otherwise.

Information black hole.

Hmmm...

... remember that phrase - and mention it again - when next it hits you - out there in ADDF land - and I'll point you to my epiphanic revelation on the 'information black hole of mind' ... here on ADDF ... ... ...

ho lordy!

... everyone's an Einstein on this infernal site ...
:-)

E = after F, see square
(imagine virtual character with hands in the air, and tongue in cheek drawing out a pretend square in the air - with 2 fingers)

:-)

... looking into a mirror
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Can communication lead to convergence in perception of reality by intercommunicative individuals?
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Welcome to ADDF, Tom!


Hey SB...show Tom over to your favorite sections...so he can chat with you!
Tom , SB is one of our favorite ..umm "Brains" here...

(Behave SB, and don't clog up my intro section..LOL )

Sorry Tom...me knows SB pretty well....

Please if you need anything please let myself of any of the other moderator's know!

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everywhere I go Tom -
told to
'move on son'

'
and take those brown paper bagged bottles with you
son
'

'we don't need your sort here'

they say.

... poor old sb.

oh well ->

... well - at least the library is warm - and I can sneak in and hide around the lesser frequented parts.

ps - in the real and logical realms.
all of this meaning

ADDF Science sub-forum
think o! 13 -> #310

thanks Hopey ... and Tom ... cu there !

I go round to that guy's place from time to time - the chappie you mentioned in your message
DAMTP in Cambridge
the 'academically dammed' at the dept of applied maths and theoretical physics.

(they have a really cool tea room - can draw on the tables - I like omega for reasons of structural similarity to something rude
->-
(turgidity)

sums it up

naughty sb !
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It's strange to see what awaits me on the other side... seeing things are so easy to understand now. I am able to concentrate and read as never befor. Would starting an academic carreer in AI be a good choice? I don't know.

I want to learn now! I would like to go insomnia for a year and read-up on all the things I ever started and never finished or disregarded as being to detailed. String theory here I come!

Does god take ritalin? I supose so... as does Schrodinger's cat.
My mind is going to both slits now!
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Can communication lead to convergence in perception of reality by intercommunicative individuals?
I guess Einstein proved something similar in his day...

Although it might take a while for a change of perception to be accepted. Something counterintuitive is always hard to perceive... for most people that is.
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You were reading all of this !!!before!!! ritalin

Currently reading:

On Intelligence - Jeff Hawkins
Code Complete
2nd edition - Steve McConnell
Joel on Software - Joel Spolsky
ASP.NET 2.0 Unleashed - Stephen Walter
Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture - Martin Fowler


omg!

omg!

apart from ASP :-)
(have you read the sequel ....caged, locked and the key thrown away
I am actually reading many more

Out of Control : The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems and the Economic World - Kevin Kelly

Swarm Intelligence - Kennedy & Eberhart-> I'm planning on reading the whole Kauffman series on Artificial Intelligence

The problem was I found it hard to crosspollinate my thoughts, jumping from one subject to another. I hope for this to go easier while on ritalin.

As for the ASP book, I'm doing an ASP project for school so it's rather obligatory reading...
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SB_UK since I think we have alot of common interests could you give me a list of books you enjoyed reading?
I have the feeling I've waisted the last 10 years. I only started reading again about 8 months ago, it couldn't interest me befor. So I'm trying to catch up, and a list of good books for me to skim through would help.

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