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Old 10-29-07, 10:52 AM
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what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

hi, ive been looking into possibly trying a herbal-or natural remedy for my extremely hyper three year old son. hes already been diagnosed with adhd, and has been offered adderall,which i declined on count of his age. ive been giving him chamomile tea at night, to help him calm down to sleep, but was wondering what the best thing would be to give him during the day.my son is so hyper, he jumps off of the furniture, climbs,and runs excessivly, until he falls and gets hurt, if i try to chase him, hwe doesnt pay attention and runs into things. out in public at the stores is real bad,as long as we look at the toys hes fine.but the minute i try to look at something else or leave, it get real ugly, everybody in the store stares.he kicks,screams,cries,bites,spits, and just acts like a wild animal. it takes everything i have to get him out of the store, and buckle him into his carseat, with him fighting me all the way.at home here, he has many temper tantrums, where he throws himself on the floor, kicking and crying, he gets very frustrated real easy, and if he is trying to tell me something,and i dont know what he means, he gets very angry.i am on dissability with fibro,and a bad back,so all this is expecially difficult for me.i have a 12 year old daughter, and she was never like this ,so its hard.please if anyone has any advise please let me know
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Old 10-29-07, 11:10 AM
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

are you opposed to mild amounts of caffiene at that age, I haven't researched it personally but a small amount under certain circumstances may not be unhealthy, check with his doctor before doing that but it's worth considering.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

I wouldn't put herbal remedies in a 3 year old either. I would go with the Adderall first. There is mixed results on the effectiveness of the herbal remedies. mspen has a point, research the use of caffiene to help. You would think it would cause an increase in behaviors but it might actually help to level him out.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

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I wouldn't put herbal remedies in a 3 year old either. I would go with the Adderall first. There is mixed results on the effectiveness of the herbal remedies. mspen has a point, research the use of caffiene to help. You would think it would cause an increase in behaviors but it might actually help to level him out.
Last year we tried giving my then-8-year old granddaughter a half a tablet of Melatonin, with mixed success. Last week our therapist suggested giving a quarter of a tablet of Melatonin to my now-5-year old granddaughter on the nights when she gets her schedule mixed up and can't sleep. She weighs about 45 pounds, so that is something you might consider trying. (He feels she has Autism or Asperger's and wants to send her to a child specialist for a definitive diagnosis, and he is pretty sure her sister has ADHD.)
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

The effects of magnesium physiological supplementation on hyperactivity in children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Positive response to magnesium oral loading test.
Starobrat-Hermelin B, Kozielec T.

Department of Family Medicine, Pomeranian Medical Academy, Szczecin, Poland.

Children with ADHD are 'a group at risk' as far as their further emotional and social development and educational possibilities are concerned, and the consequences of the lack of an appropriate therapy appears to be serious. Some of these children do not respond to prevailing therapy methods. It is reported that dietetic factors can play a significant role in the etiology of ADHD syndrome, and magnesium deficiency can help in revealing hyperactivity in children. The aim of our work was to assess the influence of magnesium supplementation on hyperactivity in patients with ADHD. The examination comprised 50 hyperactive children, aged 7-12 years, who fulfilled DSM IV criteria for ADHD syndrome, with recognized deficiency of magnesium in the blood (blood serum and red blood cells) and in hair using atomic absorption spectroscopy. In the period of 6 months those examined regularly took magnesium preparations in a dose of about 200 mg/day. 30 of those examined with ADHD showed coexisting disorders specific to developmental age, and 20 of them showed disruptive behaviour. The control group consisted of 25 children with ADHD and magnesium deficiency, who were treated in a standard way, without magnesium preparations. 15 members of this group showed coexisting disorders specific for developmental age, and 10 members showed disruptive behaviour. Hyperactivity was assessed with the aid of psychometric scales: the Conners Rating Scale for Parents and Teachers, Wender's Scale of Behavior and the Quotient of Development to Freedom from Distractibility. In the group of children given 6 months of magnesium supplementation, independently of other mental disorders coexisting with hyperactivity, an increase in magnesium contents in hair and a significant decrease of hyperactivity of those examined has been achieved, compared to their clinical state before supplementation and compared to the control group which had not been treated with magnesium.

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Use any form except oxide, which does some bad things (such as creating free radicals) and has very poor bioavailability. Citrate is quite good. There's another study I recall that had 95% of ADHD kids out of 116 tested showing deficient levels of magnesium, with the degree of deficiency correlating with hyperactive symptoms.

I take a very high dose -- 400mg citrate with each meal and up to a gram before sleeping. I wouldn't advise that kind of dose for everyone, however, as at some point it will probably worsen inattention. It is basically relaxant in the brain, as opposed to calcium which is excitatory via glutamate channels.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

  • Learn and Teach Grounding techniques (not the same as "grounding" punishment.)
  • Lots and lots of hard exercise... (Read Cesar Millan's dog training books. The SAME principles apply to humans.)
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

The main thing is to not get upset and to not show upset facial and body expressions. This just escalates things.

You have to be in control of yourself. You have to be calm-assertive to bring the child back to a calm-assertive state.

Children cannot learn (listen, or do what you ask, or 'hear') in an agitated state.

His book explains it all. (This topic is called "conditioning", btw.)
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

Does he go to daycare or preschool? Getting him "socialized" is going to be REALLY important before you try to take him to Kindergarten.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

hello yall,I really dont know where to start my son is so out of control my childs behavior has made me cry a lot of nights I dont know how to handle him just remind him all yhe time I LOVE YOU SO MUCH IM HERE FOR YOU.And give him A great big hug.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

but,I can only see him once a year but,I do talk to him on the phone twice a week.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

high doses of omega 3 fish oil? it works on most inattentive/combined ADD types that i've come across...why not hyperactive as well?
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

If the child is that out of control, I'd suggest professional help. We wouldn't be having this medication/treatment question come up if your kid was having seizures.

ADD is a real neurological disorder. Brain based. Why don't people ever understand this? (Because they aren't neurologists, i guess.)

Fast forward 15 years. If the child acts like this, he'll be put in Handcuffs and Jail. Or the mental ward. That would be terrible. What's to debate, medication-wise?

We so SO MANY people on here (Adults) who wish they'd been treated as kids, so they could have done better in school and jobs. Myself included.
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

I've heard of some parenting classes for parents that have 'difficult' children. I'm not saying you're a bad parent but you should look into something like this as you may learn some tips.

Keep him/her away from food coloring and sugar if you can, some parents finds this actually helps! As queens said do heaps of exercise.

I think you're doing the right thing with not putting him on stimulants at that age. Not much research has been done with children that young and I think it might be dangerous. I couldn't imagine putting a child of 3 on amphetamines or ritalin, although I'm sure you could find a doctor that would happily do it.
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re: #13

Paragraph 1: I think Oz means "skills development for parents". Yup. There are some trick, for sure.

(Particularly challenging when ADHD kids have Undiagnosed non-hyperactive ADD Parents. It seems to run in families sometimes. And many non-hypers
("Inattentives") aren't diagnosed b/c we were Quiet kids.)

Noone here really advocates "pills without skills".
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Re: what is best "to calm down" an adhd child?

I think Ritalin works best for people 6-16 years old
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