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Old 02-02-09, 07:27 PM
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Hi guys, well off me and hubby went today to see the doctor at the mental health clinic. It was horrendous! I litteral went through variouse emotions in the time i was their, to the point were i wanted to hit her

Yes i no, but she asked me loads of questions, kept going over and over my child hood, why friends have fallen out with me, asked for example after example. I said at one point i do not no ask them.

She said towards the end that although i shared allot of things in common with adhd, their was allot of things that do not fit, ahhhhhhh!!! she know listen to me.

She thinks that i take things to personally and have a personality type were i litterall beat myself up, and these sorts can get quite seriouse deppression as all they see is negativity in them selves, that i need to start helping myself, by beleiving in what i have done.

She said she is not ruling out adhd, but as some times i can complete tasks, ie when i hypofocus, that this is not a characteristic and people with adhd can not finish things.

Ie i told her i get an idea in my head and litterally strip a room and paint and decorate it in a day. So because i finish it or have finished stuff i may not have adhd

That because i never give myself a break, this is why, i struggle with organisation, house work, kids pe kits, remembering appoint, friendship issues, and so on

I got that cross at one point, i said ok then, so because i have a low self esteem this makes my head spin all the time and forget everything and struggle with day to day tasks. She replied yes because i am worrying that i may fail, so i set my self up for failure. Ok guys what is up with this women or is she right, cos now i am that confused.

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Re: omg scene the mental health team today

were are u all tonight lol, u never all gone to bed early xxxx
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Re: omg scene the mental health team today

Hey Jenny!

Sorry you had such a bad time.

It sounds like your doctor needs to learn some things about ADDers. We are often hyper-sensitive, taking things too personally because we have such low self-esteem. We often beat ourselves up over things. We can and do hyperfocus and get things done at times. If you have ADD, simply believing in yourself isn't going to make symptoms go away.

Sounds to me like you got one that just wanted to diagnose you as depressed, but the reality is that many times the depression is brought on by the ADD related issues.
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Re: omg scene the mental health team today

What a dumba**! B*tch has no clue what in the world she is talking about. Hyperfocusing is PART of ADD, ADDers get depressed because of their ADD. Though you may in fact have depression, or another disorder, ADD is frequently accompanied by other conditions. The point is, her lack of knowledge makes a comprehensive diagnosis by her almost impossible.


See a different person, please. This "doctor" is incompetent and cannot meet your needs adequately.

I hope you can find a professional that can help you. I have personally gone through having a crappy provider, my former prescriber. Former being the key word there.
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Re: omg scene the mental health team today

That sounds so frustrating! It is scary to hear of paid professionals who have studied so much about their field that don't know the basics.

Let us know how your second opinion goes!
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Hi guys, well off me and hubby went today to see the doctor at the mental health clinic. It was horrendous! I litteral went through variouse emotions in the time i was their, to the point were i wanted to hit her

Yes i no, but she asked me loads of questions, kept going over and over my child hood, why friends have fallen out with me, asked for example after example. I said at one point i do not no ask them.

She said towards the end that although i shared allot of things in common with adhd, their was allot of things that do not fit, ahhhhhhh!!! she know listen to me.

She thinks that i take things to personally and have a personality type were i litterall beat myself up, and these sorts can get quite seriouse deppression as all they see is negativity in them selves, that i need to start helping myself, by beleiving in what i have done.

She said she is not ruling out adhd, but as some times i can complete tasks, ie when i hypofocus, that this is not a characteristic and people with adhd can not finish things.

Ie i told her i get an idea in my head and litterally strip a room and paint and decorate it in a day. So because i finish it or have finished stuff i may not have adhd

That because i never give myself a break, this is why, i struggle with organisation, house work, kids pe kits, remembering appoint, friendship issues, and so on

I got that cross at one point, i said ok then, so because i have a low self esteem this makes my head spin all the time and forget everything and struggle with day to day tasks. She replied yes because i am worrying that i may fail, so i set my self up for failure. Ok guys what is up with this women or is she right, cos now i am that confused.

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Actually I have ADHD and I DO NOT finish things unless I'm on medication. Sure, I had some hyperfocus issues before my diagnosis but I never hyperfocused long enough to actually finish anything. However, a lot of the other things you described about yourself also apply to me. I also tend to beat myself up and I see things negatively and I am hypersensitive.

I don't think this doctor is quite as bad as some of you have made her out to be. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking lots of questions. That's what they're supposed to do. They need to get your history and look at the context of your problems. I'd rather have someone who is thorough than someone who just talked to me for two minutes and didn't care about me.

I think the doctor might be right in that you have a negative personality. That being said, I DO agree with some of your criticisms of the doctor. Your doctor might be right about you being depressed but she's not looking at WHY you're depressed. I think a lot of doctors can correctly identify depression in an ADHD sufferer but they don't understand how ADHD can make a person depressed. They just see the symptoms of depression and then they go, "Oh, she's obviously depressed" and then they don't look beyond that. I think that's where the weak link is. Some doctors don't understand the connection between ADHD and depression. Dealing with undiagnosed ADHD and being called stupid your whole life can be very depressing.

I think it's frustrating that your doctor doesn't understand how ADHD might be the cause of your depression. But she doesn't sound that bad. At least she hasn't ruled out ADHD so it sounds like she might be opened minded. I would give her a chance before writing her off. If you're planning to see her again maybe you could explain how your ADHD symptoms are connected to your depression symptoms. Explain the lifetime of frustration and confusion and brain fog. Show her how it has accumulated over the years and how it's been such an emotional burden. You could jot these thoughts down on paper and bring it with you when you go to your next appointment so you won't forget. Good luck.
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Re: omg scene the mental health team today

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My hubby totally agreed with her, whic made me even more cross, then the tears came.

Hubby took my phone off me in the meeting because i would not stop playing with it, and said he wanted tp put my hands under my bum as when he took phone, i was eithet tappin my nails or bighting them. I said i was not.

Hubby said she was very into fraud, ie going over and over child hood. She reapeated adhd over and over again, and said even if i have got it their is no magic bean that will fix me. She said there is medication, but that will not necessarily solve my problems and that i have to stop pullin myself down, and making everything a negative.

She said people like this end up with severe deppression, all i could think was i am not bipolar (sorry guys if u have this problem)

Hubby said what amazed him, is how when she asked me a question i gave her a complete different answer.

She will be seeing me again in 4 weeks, and will put some test papers together.

How can a negative personality, whatever one of them is, cause so many problems, how does it cause major organisationol difficulti, and all my other problems. Hubby said to stay off computer and stop diagnosing myself and that i am looking to much into stuff, analyse everything.

I personally beleive i have adhd and that is the prime problem, but after reading the mild version of bilpoar i kind of fit. Oh i do not no. Can see her putting me on deppressents like they have all done in the past, and yet i am not bloomin depressed, if i was how can i go from feeling crap to excited in the space of an hour
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I strongly recommend you educate yourself in those four weeks about just what adhd is, why it has effects on self esteem and why it can cause depression.

Sorry your experience was so bad.

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She said she is not ruling out adhd
It may have seemed like this assessment went really wrong for you. It might be the case that she will discuss this with her peers before making a DX.

Just out of interest - was this an assessment by an ADHD specialist or a local service that will then refer you on for a proper assessment if they they think you have ADHD?

If you trawl the UK section (if you haven't already!) you will see that (generally) as soon as you enter the NHS services with ADHD you are walking into a minefield ; )

Good luck with it all!
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It may have seemed like this assessment went really wrong for you. It might be the case that she will discuss this with her peers before making a DX.

Just out of interest - was this an assessment by an ADHD specialist or a local service that will then refer you on for a proper assessment if they they think you have ADHD?

If you trawl the UK section (if you haven't already!) you will see that (generally) as soon as you enter the NHS services with ADHD you are walking into a minefield ; )

Good luck with it all!
Hi hun, it was with our local mental health team, she read me the letter saying that the gp beleives i have adhd and could they look into it further.

I do not thinck this lady is ruling it out if i am honest, as she did say she will put some papers together for when i see her again in the next 4 weeks.

I also remember her saying that things have changed in the uk now, and they are having to look into all questions of possible adhd, but it is a learning curve for them as it has been quite disregarded in the uk. Which i suppose is quite positive.

She just made me cross as i just no in my heart that adhd is one of the main routes of my problems, i am not disputin that i may be co-morbid but its just she could not understand why i could complate tasks, how i got the gcse results i got even though i did not revise, that my attention seekin could be due to lack of attention as a child.

That as children we receive praise for doing good, this teaches us for when we are older and do not get so many pats on the back when to give it ourselves and when not to. She thinks i received so much negativity ie been told off that now i do not no how to pat myself on the back.

That i am lookin for constant approval from others all the time and that i need to change my thought process. Hello how do i do that, i have been trying for years, i have blamed my problems on everything other than the kitchen sink and now i blame myself, i try so hard to be organised, i have written umpteen lists and forget were the blinkin list is.

I feel as though no one understands me, hence why i got so cross with her, i wanted to scream and say u have no idea, i wanted to screw my head off and put it on hers.

I said how come evry one else i know goes to work, is organised, remembers the kids pe kits letters etc, does not have the problems i have from jumping from one thing to anouther. I looked her in the eye and said so what you are saying i can not clean up because i am to worried about if i will live up to others expectations or if i can do it well enough. I never heard so much bollocks in all my life. She responded by saying u see your doing it again making everything negative, questioning everything. Am i cracking up here.

So because of my personality i turn all positives into negatives causing adhd symptoms. This making me unorganised, head spins constantly,

She asked me how ofetn i was impulsive, when these events happened how often, it was like if you have adhd your impulsive all the time, ie reversing into cars because u forget it was there, this would be a daily event.

What is up with people why the hell can no one other than u guys undertsand how i feel and what the hell it is like to live in our world ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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Hi hun, it was with our local mental health team, she read me the letter saying that the gp beleives i have adhd and could they look into it further.

I do not thinck this lady is ruling it out if i am honest, as she did say she will put some papers together for when i see her again in the next 4 weeks.
Yeh this sounds quite normal. What *might* happen is they say they think you might have it and then refer you on to an actual ADHD specialist for a day of testing - that's the best outcome. Slower, but probably the best IMO.


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She just made me cross as i just no in my heart that adhd is one of the main routes of my problems, i am not disputin that i may be co-morbid
There are probably lots of conditions that they need to rule out. I had lots of other things that sat along side my ADHD and after some quite basic treatment these have all become markedly less/gone. So yeh, treat the main cause and other things might fall by the wayside - to some extent.

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I feel as though no one understands me, hence why i got so cross with her, i wanted to scream and say u have no idea, i wanted to screw my head off and put it on hers.
There are a lot of health care professionals that don't really understand it. I found using analogies and asking them how they would feel if X Y and Z kept happening to them was useful.

It's interesting how they have mentioned they are on a learning curve yet talk like ADHD specialists in the same session.

Try not to blow up at them though - as frustrating as they can be you have to keep them onside. I think I would struggle with dealing with her 'style' to be honest ; )

As said, you can always try for a second opinion. Ahhh the NHS!!!!!!!!
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There are a lot of health care professionals that don't really understand it. I found using analogies and asking them how they would feel if X Y and Z kept happening to them was useful.

It's interesting how they have mentioned they are on a learning curve yet talk like ADHD specialists in the same session.

Try not to blow up at them though - as frustrating as they can be you have to keep them onside. I think I would struggle with dealing with her 'style' to be honest ; )

As said, you can always try for a second opinion. Ahhh the NHS!!!!!!!![/quote]


Its so hard though not to want to kill them lol. Hubby said if i did not have a problem with my moods i would not have gone though the stages i went through, ie hyper, cross and then tears.

He said i behaved like a child who could not get her own way, so stuck my bottom lip out. Bottom lip, uhhh.

Hubby asked me if i noticed that she lead the questions by starting a question with my last answer and as soon as i finshed my last word her next question began straight away.

Nope is the answer to that one. Ok guys this is me the true me, u tell me is it my personality.

1. One minute hyper the next no energy
2. make rash decisions, act first think later
3. Want to fix things, thrive in a crisis
4. When i get an idea the adrenaline runs through my veins, i can not controll it, but the feelin is amazin

5. Forget appoint, go week early, week late. school letters, paying bills,

6. Rang consultant, consultant rang me back. Had no idea why rang thought he was ringing to see if we ok (why would a consultant do that) 20 min into conversation i remember omg how embarresing

7. talk far to much, but then can be very quite
8. problems with friendships, walked on, critisised, took advantage of

9. Issues with parents, have done from being a child, mum said jump left i jumeped ten foot other way.

10 Mum said teachers thought i was dyslexic as a child, but nothing done about it.

11 Mum said teacher said i was no good, waist of space

11. walked into a room of strangers and talked to them as if known for years

12. will ask anybody anything, not think if hurt feelins

13. was very body worried as a child, bulemic.

14. sex, 12, smoked 12, night clubs 12, arested 14, stole from 4. Walked into people houses when not no them

15. black sheep, sister could do no wrong

16. Decide i want a job, by dinner have interview, ten min later decide not a good idea

17. Can not read a book, forget what read, get distracted have to read paragraph all over again

18. Analise myself, people, comments whys and what fores, everything has to be justified.

19. skived off school, always in heads office, school reports read " if could be quite for 5 min might learn something"

20. At ten wet myself as teacher not let me go to toilet, thought no one would notice as sat on a chair

21. ironing piles

22. fear of god when some one comes because of state of house

23. inside feel like a big kid, screaming to get out, but being made to conform to society causing self dought

24. decide room needs painting, go to wilco, move room round, paint from top to bottom in space of twelve hours.

25. inconsitent with my boys, some times i can keep them in a routine but can not manage more than a couple of days

26. if i have grounded them or banned them off computer, forget and so they go on it ( the kids have told me this()

228 when i am due on, i am horrendouse

29 hubby never knows what he is walking into, drives him mad

30 went to my mother in laws other day, and put magazines on my sister in laws head, poked my brother in law and generally stupid, felt like a coil full of excitement. Loads of energy but would not have been able to clean up, just jumped from one to anouther. Hubbys brouther said give her some pills she drivin me mad. I thought it was a hillariouse. Wanted to runb, play

i could go on and on but may give u guys an idea
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Re: omg scene the mental health team today

Very likely ADHD combined type.

UK is backwards when it comes to ADHD, slow to accept condition.

"Freudian" approach is discredited. Going into childhood can be helpful for diagnosis but some people use it for therapy; I don't know any condition where it's been shown to help. She seems to be giving therapy/advice even before diagnosing a condition, bad sign.
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Jenny I fell your frustration. My cormorbid conditions are so severe it is hard to diagnose adhd in me. Even so my pdoc put my on a med for it. I am going to ask for strattera when I see him tomorrow.

I am sorry you are hurting and struggling. I know exactly how you feel. With out going into big details, I have many adhd symptoms that I can trace back to 3 years old. But Im also a drug addict and my pdoc told me straight he would need to learn to trust me as I am learning to trust him.

I hope all turns out well. Feel free to drop by sometime if you want to talk somemore.

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thank u guys. only time will tell i soppose.

do u no i was thinking lol, i have a son who has adhd, autistic tendencies and a hearing inpairement, from the moment he opened his eyes he drove me mad. sounds awfull i no, but you will see what i am leading to.

He had me up all night every night, i often sat on the doorstep wishing he would sleep. He had horrific tantrums that lasted hours. His first day at school the teacher said " if he carrys on like he is he will never get anywere in life"!

Anouther day i was told " the sooner he learns that he is deaf and we are not this class room will be an awfull lot quiter!"

My family said that my sister children will never be like mine, because she will teach them right from wrong from day one, unlike me who is not consistent.

Every day was a challenge, emotionally and mentally. My younger son, who also has problems was different, he was quite, he played happily on his own, tryed so hard in scholl but struggled so much, was loving.

To begin with my youngest got very little attention as all our energys went into my eldest son, getting him help in school, getting him diagnosed medication and so on, constant trips to the peadiatrics.

But then something changed, i did not like my eldest son, he was an embarressment, hard work , i did not like him very much. I pushed him away and pulled my youngest closer.

Then one day i opened my eyes and saw the big picture, i saw myself in my son, i understood what he was trying to say because i listened to myself.

Family all these years including myself, thought like this doctor i have scene that it is because i did not get the attention as a child. I craved the attention my sister had, that may be rightly so.

But look at me with my boys. The only difference being when i was little their was no understanding of my problems, could not spell, read, hyper all the rest of it. My behaviour became more erratic as i tryed to scream, listen to me please, understand me, love me put your arms around me and hold me.

But instead, my mum did not understand, the teachers did not understand. I drove my mum mad, i pushed every button she had, the more i pushed the more i pushed her away towards my sister, the quite one the one that could do no wrong.

I had all these problems, like my son. I still have these problems, but now i have lost myself, My mum is not to blame, the system is not to blame. It is lack of knowledge, lack of what is socially acceptable, lack of conforming to society has given me the problems today of what people see to be right or wrong.

I love my boys more than life itself, i will fight for them both tooth and nail to get what they need and i will beet the system.

I love my mum and hope one day she will understand, but then i have reached a point were she has to accept me for who i am and me her for us to have any kind of relationship.

What i am trying to say is through having learning difficulties, through having an adhd brain, through being miss understood and constantly pushed off my branch, that it leaves a very negative person, with a negative personality.

Christ this system has got to change, and as soon as i have my answers and resolved my issues, i will personally strive to help others and other families so they do not have to go through what all us guys go through daily and have done for many years
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