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Old 06-09-10, 02:23 PM
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Conners testing results?

Today i gave my daughters teacher the Connors Testing sheet to complete.Although she has given her quite afew 2,s and a couple of 3,s this is no where like the results i have.!
Does anyone know how many they have to score for a diagnosis . Really confused school only see her on a structured day its in the playground she loses it. Am i alone or are girls sometimes not diagnosed because they have high intelligence?
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Re: Conners testing results?

Well first off, it's not just "girls" who have high intelligence. Usually they appear to because they mature at a younger age (thus less "screwing around" like the boys do) but as for intelligence, I don't think so.
It's possible that she is worried about being labeled different as well.
I know back when I was young I would "lie" my way through any evaluation that I thought would result in a negative association.

As for how to score:
http://www.ehow.com/i/#article_5000943
it's a test that looks for outliers so you just need
to tabulate the answers correctly
I didn't want to be different.
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Re: Conners testing results?

Sorry Barnops,didnt mean that just girls were intelligenct
Meant that as my son struggled with education he was picked up with adhd more quickly.
My daughter has same issues but because her school work is good[her behaviour is not}she seems to be being overlooked.
I was wondering if this was usual .
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Re: Conners testing results?

From what I've heard, teachers often don't score as strongly as parent since kids mostly try to hold it together at school and then release when they get home. I've also heard that girls are often more overlooked since it is less common for them to act up and to have adhd. Hopefully whoever is overseeing the testing will know this and take it into account.
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Re: Conners testing results?

ADHD seems to manifest differently (usually) in girls than in boys. While it is less common for them to act up, be referred by teachers for assessments or to be diagnosed with it, it isn't necessarily any less common for girls to actually have ADHD.

My daughter has just turned 10. We have spent the last 6 months trying to get her therapist to see what we've been seeing all along. Yes, she has some anxiety issues, but I believed they were coming from her school performance.
So many late assignments, missed assignments, lost assignments, etc...comments from other students about these habits (of course she has anxiety about these things!). Yet her grades were mostly above average...? This lead me to believe that she had some smarts in there too! The resource teacher gave her a screening test that confirmed this, but because of her grades and not being "off the charts smart" she supposedly doesn't 'qualify' for additional assessments (learning problems etc), so we are having that done privately (yike$$!).

Even with the teacher scoring her a bit lower than we did, she still finally came out with a diagnosis of mild/moderate ADHD. I disagree with the mild part, but just glad that the diagnosis was made.

Here's some info on girls with ADHD, there are tons more if you do a search.

http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=11532
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Re: Conners testing results?

we are in the process in getting a referral to a specialist regarding our daughter as we think she may have adhd and she isn't typical of a normal girl with adhd, she is disruptive in class and hates work, gets bored, causes trouble, does the bare minimum asked of her regarding school work and hates doing homework, plays rough, is agressive etc more like a boys symptoms and then cmes home and fights with her brother, can be rude, rub away, try to hurt herself, very load and chatty, boisterous and at the moment working with a learning mentor to establish friendships in school because she finds it hard to keep friends, she is 7
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Re: Conners testing results?

My girl is more like a boy with the high hyperactivity and aggression when she's not on her Concerta; my older boy is more like the girl symptoms; my youngest is a typical boy ADHDer. You just can't depend on people to conform to gender stereotypes!
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From what I've heard, teachers often don't score as strongly as parent since kids mostly try to hold it together at school and then release when they get home. I've also heard that girls are often more overlooked since it is less common for them to act up and to have adhd. Hopefully whoever is overseeing the testing will know this and take it into account.
This is what I've heard as well. My granddaughter's teachers were all saying "She's so smart and tries so hard and I don't really see a problem" but a couple of them filled out the Connor's assessment for her. They mailed them directly to the doctor so I never saw them, but considering they didn't think there was a problem, apparently it showed up in the assessment because her doctor said her scores were the highest/worst he had ever seen.
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Re: Conners testing results?

Personally, I think having teachers evaluate inattentive students, especially girls, with the Conners Testing is a waste of time. To most teachers, girls with fairly severe ADHD (inattention) might be seen as angels who aren't causing a lot of disruptive problems in the classroom. That's particularly true when the girl is fairly bright.
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Re: Conners testing results?

well I have had a copy of the letter sent to the gp today and it says

'DD behaviour is very changeable in class. At times she concentrates well and interacts with others positively. At other times she ignores instructions and distracts and is distracted by other pupils, even when told not to.
DD is quite possessive of her friends and always wants to sit with them and play with them even if instructed not to.
DD has some issues in the playground. She plays rough games and is over physical with other children. Even when she has been instructed to undertake a different activity, she will ignore members of staff and continue being rough or over physical.
Generally, staff dealing with DD need to be firm and give her clear guidelines to follow'

any comments please would be nice, does this seem typical of an adhd child in class.


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well I have had a copy of the letter sent to the gp today and it says

'DD behaviour is very changeable in class. At times she concentrates well and interacts with others positively. At other times she ignores instructions and distracts and is distracted by other pupils, even when told not to.
DD is quite possessive of her friends and always wants to sit with them and play with them even if instructed not to.
DD has some issues in the playground. She plays rough games and is over physical with other children. Even when she has been instructed to undertake a different activity, she will ignore members of staff and continue being rough or over physical.
Generally, staff dealing with DD need to be firm and give her clear guidelines to follow'

any comments please would be nice, does this seem typical of an adhd child in class.
The changability is one of the hallmarks of ADHD. Being too rough on the playground sounds more like the hyper form than the inattentive form. I don't remember you mentioning how old your daughter is, but Dr. Barkley has quite an interesting theory on how kids with ADHD are often between 30 and 40 percent behind their peers in certain areas of development, so it's quite possible that the teachers needing to remind her several times would seem normal with a child just 2 or 3 year younger than she is.

You can find a copy of that article by Barkley at Dizfriz's Corner click here.
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she is 7
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she is 7

I have just read what Dizfriz's article and yes it makes sense, I have a 5 year old boy and she acts like him sometimes, in age i mean and plays roughly games etc with him.
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Okay, I know how difficult it is to decide whether or not to medicate a child that young, but it sounds like something you might want to talk to your doctor about. My granddaughters (ADHD and Autism Spectrum) have only been on meds for about a year so it's too soon to see any long term issues, but short term this seems to have been a very good choice for us/them.
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